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Old 04-16-2005, 04:22 AM
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Tabby the extremist is once again fibbing about this military doc. And
I am no fan of military doctors.

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Old 04-16-2005, 03:00 AM
Glenn - USAEyes.org
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> One very sickening military
> LASIK doc actually stated that he didn't bother to measure pupil size before
> LASIK on military personnel because he knew he could not be sued.

Really? Who is that Tabby? What military doctor said that he will
not adhere to protocol because he cannot be sued? Name names, Tabby.
Substantiate your accusations.

Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
Council for Refractive Surgery Quality Assurance

Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org

http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org

I am not a doctor.
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Old 04-16-2005, 02:13 AM
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Ragnar,

This is the best stuff you ever wrote. You're right that military medical
care is poor and military doctors can't be sued. One very sickening military
LASIK doc actually stated that he didn't bother to measure pupil size before
LASIK on military personnel because he knew he could not be sued.

Now that's sickening.

What's just as sickening is doctors at major university medical centers
operating on large pupil patients for a few measly thousand extra bucks for
themselves. And ruining these patients vision for LIFE. There are greedy and
unscrupulous refractive surgeons everywhere. Patients, speak out about your
bad experiences!


"Ragnar" <ragnarsuomi[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:lmpv51h2aksub956vpo9irj79cp5up8otb[at]4ax.com...
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> I wonder how one gets INTO the airforce when they are nearsighted.
> I would hardly use the policies of the military to make a decision.
> If you want to get blunt about what the military is doing, they have
> optometrists doing PRK rather than a more expensive doctor doing
> LASIK. Military medical care is notoriously poor. They use old
> doctors who are way past their prime, they don't follow the rules, and
> they can't be sued. Often, doctors work for the military because they
> can't affort to pay their own malpractice insurance.
> Here's an idea that is off-topic... rather than worrying about a
> draft or unfair calling up of reserves and training... why not make
> all police officers part of the reserves? Around where I live, there
> are three times as many police officers as we need. They have nothing
> to do.
> On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:17:45 GMT, Glenn - USAEyes.org
> <glenn.hageleSTOPSPAM[at]USAEyes.org> wrote:
> > And don't forget Ragnar, this is the Israel air force. The US Air
> > Force and Naval pilots can have LASEK, but they cannot have LASIK if
> > they are in certain divisions.
> > > Glenn Hagele
> > Executive Director
> > Council for Refractive Surgery Quality Assurance
> > > Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org
> > > http://www.USAEyes.org
> > http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org
> > > I am not a doctor.


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Old 04-15-2005, 04:11 PM
Ragnar
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Default Re: Lasek Surgery Disqualifies Pilots from Training Program

I wonder how one gets INTO the airforce when they are nearsighted.
I would hardly use the policies of the military to make a decision.

If you want to get blunt about what the military is doing, they have
optometrists doing PRK rather than a more expensive doctor doing
LASIK. Military medical care is notoriously poor. They use old
doctors who are way past their prime, they don't follow the rules, and
they can't be sued. Often, doctors work for the military because they
can't affort to pay their own malpractice insurance.

Here's an idea that is off-topic... rather than worrying about a
draft or unfair calling up of reserves and training... why not make
all police officers part of the reserves? Around where I live, there
are three times as many police officers as we need. They have nothing
to do.


On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:17:45 GMT, Glenn - USAEyes.org
<glenn.hageleSTOPSPAM[at]USAEyes.org> wrote:

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> And don't forget Ragnar, this is the Israel air force. The US Air
> Force and Naval pilots can have LASEK, but they cannot have LASIK if
> they are in certain divisions.
> Glenn Hagele
> Executive Director
> Council for Refractive Surgery Quality Assurance
> Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org
> http://www.USAEyes.org
> http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org
> I am not a doctor.

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Old 04-15-2005, 01:17 PM
Glenn - USAEyes.org
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Default Re: Lasek Surgery Disqualifies Pilots from Training Program

And don't forget Ragnar, this is the Israel air force. The US Air
Force and Naval pilots can have LASEK, but they cannot have LASIK if
they are in certain divisions.

Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
Council for Refractive Surgery Quality Assurance

Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org

http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org

I am not a doctor.
 
Old 04-14-2005, 03:13 PM
Ragnar
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Default Re: Lasek Surgery Disqualifies Pilots from Training Program

Since the number of people wanting to be air force pilots outnumbers
the number of $50 million dollar planes by about a factor of 500 to
1... I think we can safely exclude nearsighted people from being
pilots without sacrificing national security.

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:47:23 -0500, "Brent Hanson - LasikFraud.com"
<brent[at]nospam_lasikfraud.com> wrote:

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> (IsraelNN.com) If you are one of many who underwent Lasek laser surgery for
> the removal of eyeglasses, perhaps in the hope of becoming eligible to apply
> for the Air Force's pilot training program, you may as well begin looking
> for an alternative military career.
> The IDF's weekly BaMahane magazine reports that people who underwent Lasek
> surgery are not eligible to apply for the pilot training program under
> regulations established by the air force's medical board. Those who wear
> eyeglasses or had the surgery are ineligible to apply.
> The decision was handed down last week after Air Force medical experts
> consulted with ophthalmologists, admitting data and long-term studies and
> patient follow-up are not available. Lt.-Colonel Dr. Bella Azzariya admits
> data is limited, adding the Air Force is unable to determine how altitude,
> lack of oxygen and other factors will impact a person who underwent the
> surgery, so the medical experts are compelled to take a hard-line approach
> in the matter.
> Dr. Azzariya added pilots who underwent the surgery will be permitted to
> continue flying, but will be compelled to undergo periodical examinations to
> monitor the situation.
> http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=79743

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Old 04-13-2005, 10:47 PM
Brent Hanson - LasikFraud.com
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Default Lasek Surgery Disqualifies Pilots from Training Program

(IsraelNN.com) If you are one of many who underwent Lasek laser surgery for
the removal of eyeglasses, perhaps in the hope of becoming eligible to apply
for the Air Force's pilot training program, you may as well begin looking
for an alternative military career.

The IDF's weekly BaMahane magazine reports that people who underwent Lasek
surgery are not eligible to apply for the pilot training program under
regulations established by the air force's medical board. Those who wear
eyeglasses or had the surgery are ineligible to apply.

The decision was handed down last week after Air Force medical experts
consulted with ophthalmologists, admitting data and long-term studies and
patient follow-up are not available. Lt.-Colonel Dr. Bella Azzariya admits
data is limited, adding the Air Force is unable to determine how altitude,
lack of oxygen and other factors will impact a person who underwent the
surgery, so the medical experts are compelled to take a hard-line approach
in the matter.

Dr. Azzariya added pilots who underwent the surgery will be permitted to
continue flying, but will be compelled to undergo periodical examinations to
monitor the situation.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=79743


 

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