Glenn, I don't understand why you entertain these people.

Hindsight has been caterwauling in this vein for months. Allow me to
remind you of how she (claims she's a he, I don't buy it) treated you
back in January:

http://groups.google.ca/group/alt.la...e20b4295fc354f

Hindsight: "If someone above is not a doctor,then doctors must be
paying him to spin this web of manure.It seems to be his job."

Glenn: "The only spinning I have ever had to do is unspin the bovine
fertilizer some people have attempted to spread. I have no intention or
desire to make refractive surgery sound like anything. It is what it
is. Nothing more and nothing less."

Hindsight: "See he never stops.They must be paying him with those
millions.Does he
even sleep? [snip] No matter how much you spin on this subject,you
can't make cosmetic eye
surgery a good thing.You can't suck in victims with lies forever.The
truth will be told."

I know you mean well but you are wasting your keystrokes.

These. People. Are. Fucked. You cannot help them. Not over the
internet. I get that you are trying to stay objective and professional
- I am under no such obligation.

There is definately some truth to that.My OEP is very
anti-lasik,because he has dealt with the results but he knew enough to
not have it and steers people away from it.
Of course,it would depend on how bad the results were,I only know my
own experience which was very bad.I don't know what a minor
complication would be like.I wish.
This is interesting,I saw an opthomologist at ohio university some
months back.I asked him why he was wearing glasses,and why hadn't he
had lasik.He actually said and I quote "I know more than you do."He
knew a lot more than I did,but he wasn't telling it.

On 29 May 2006 20:29:19 -0700, "hindsight" <eangel[at]cinci.rr.comwrote:

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This is not at all true and a dangerous assumption. It is dangerous
because if this were true, only anti-Lasik people would have had bad
results. This would grossly under-report the reality.

Many patient satisfaction surveys have found that patients who have
poor to moderate outcomes will still recommend Lasik to their friends.
It is surmised and evidence indicates that the majority of people who
have poor to moderate outcomes consider their results an anomaly and
assume others will have different results.

The number of fervent anti-Lasik people does not represent the total
number of people with poor outcomes. It only represents the number of
people who are fervently anti-Lasik.

Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes.org
Patient Advocacy Surgeon Certification

"Consider and Choose With Confidence"

Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org

http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org

I am not a doctor.

Was that a joke or is this charactor really a doctor.I know he has a
reason to be here and it's most certainly not to warn people of the
risks and dangers of having your eyes ripped apart and
lasered.Everybody seems to be far to one side of the fence or the
other.When the result is bad,you are automatically on the anti lasik
side.Most people with a good result aren't even going to be heard from
at all.That leaves the ones who are monetarily connected and likely
becoming rich from this hoax.They are likely the most ferocious and
nasty of the bunch.

One thing for sure here is Keller is certifiable. And her husband is
stupid.

Sure, doctor.

Sandy wrote:
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Everyone who has read this group for more than 5 minutes knows you harp
continually on this point Sandy. I have read Glenn's response to this
question countless times. If you haven't the wherewithal to go look up
answers he's already provided you with than I would suggest your eye
problems go much deeper; possibly your entire brain has been
cauterized. Look into that, would you? You're wasting our time.

For some people, no "proof" is enough. Others use the resources we
provide.

Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes.org
Patient Advocacy Surgeon Certification

"Consider and Choose With Confidence"

Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org

http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org

I am not a doctor.

It's not necessary to reveal personal patient information to the public
in order to prove that you are doing what you are supposed to be doing.

On 29 May 2006 09:34:36 -0700, "Sandy" <sandy[at]savvysneaks.com> wrote:

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Patient information is never made available to the public. How we
conduct our certification process is explained on our website at
http://www.USAEyes.org.

Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes.org
Patient Advocacy Surgeon Certification

"Consider and Choose With Confidence"

Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org

http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org

I am not a doctor.