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Old 06-12-2006, 11:53 PM
Glenn - USAEyes.org
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Perhaps you should try monovision in contacts and see how you like it.
You can always revisit the issue later.

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  #24  
Old 06-12-2006, 11:18 PM
Ragnar
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Actually.. it's the least controversial surgery that ever existed. You
would never know that from reading the posts of the handful of
lunatics in this newsgroup though..


On 12 Jun 2006 14:03:21 -0700, kawika.ho[at]gmail.com wrote:

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> Wow, I didn't expect to see a lot of backlash and fighting. I guess
> LASIK is a pretty controversial topic. Well, okay, to clarify things,
> I did see Ella at PVI for an evaluation and they have rated my vision
> as being -1.75 in the right eye, and -.75 in the left. I was told that
> I would only need the right eye done, since my left eye is not so bad
> and it would deter reading problems as I got older, i.e. gives me
> inherent monovision.
> I've known three people that have had the procedure done, and all three
> have had excellent results and are really satisfied with it. I guess
> my vision isn't so bad that I could just wear glasses again, but the
> problem is that I surf and having slightly blurred vision in the waves
> all the time is starting to get a bit annoying. I would love to see
> crystal clear water for all its worth.
> PVI seems to be the best bet, but, I'm kinda turned off by some recent
> events. I was originally quoted with $3 grand for one eye, which was a
> reduction based on my VSP vision plan. I got a call today from the
> coordinator there saying that there is an optometrist that wants to
> watch the procedure done next week, and that if I opted for this
> situation, that I would receive a discount of $500. It smells somewhat
> fishy, as i'm sure she makes $$$ commission for every procedure done.
> I was also originally quoted from this lady that the procedure would
> cost in the neighborhood of $2500-3500 per eye, depending on the
> circumstances. I figure with my right eye having really good corneal
> thickness, mild myopia, and no other health problems, that I would be
> in the low range of the original stated figures, namely, $2500. Now
> i'm getting a call that sounds like, "Act now or it'll be TOO late"
> pitch. Hmmmm... I was seriously considering having the surgery, but
> I'm turned off now by the weird sales pitch here.
> Anyhow, much thanks for all of the feedback. It's been truly
> appreciated. I think i'll stick with glasses for awhile.
  #23  
Old 06-12-2006, 10:33 PM
Just Jack
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> PVI seems to be the best bet, but, I'm kinda turned off by some recent
> events. I was originally quoted with $3 grand for one eye, which was a
> reduction based on my VSP vision plan. I got a call today from the
> coordinator there saying that there is an optometrist that wants to
> watch the procedure done next week, and that if I opted for this
> situation, that I would receive a discount of $500. It smells somewhat
> fishy, as i'm sure she makes $$$ commission for every procedure done.
> I was also originally quoted from this lady that the procedure would
> cost in the neighborhood of $2500-3500 per eye, depending on the
> circumstances. I figure with my right eye having really good corneal
> thickness, mild myopia, and no other health problems, that I would be
> in the low range of the original stated figures, namely, $2500. Now
> i'm getting a call that sounds like, "Act now or it'll be TOO late"
> pitch. Hmmmm... I was seriously considering having the surgery, but
> I'm turned off now by the weird sales pitch here.

For what it's worth, and this will not sit well with some people here, but
oh well......

I paid $599 per eye at LVI and I couldn't be happier. I could have paid $499
but I opted for the $100 life time enhancement option which I'm now thinking
I'll probably never use since I'm seeing fine and have not regressed much at
all.

Let's face, PVI is a business and they've got to sell their services. Some
are flashy, some try to be over the top sincere. It all comes down to a
marketing gimmick.

As for the $500 discount, heck why not? Hospitals do it all the time when
they drag med students through your room to look at your rare case of
whatever it is and they don't give you a dime off.

But with the low power correction you need, is it really worth it? Why not
just get a good supply of daily wear disposable contacts and where them when
surfing. If you lose one, so what. You can buy alot of disposable contacts
for $3K.

Good luck.


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Old 06-12-2006, 10:03 PM
kawika.ho@gmail.com
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Wow, I didn't expect to see a lot of backlash and fighting. I guess
LASIK is a pretty controversial topic. Well, okay, to clarify things,
I did see Ella at PVI for an evaluation and they have rated my vision
as being -1.75 in the right eye, and -.75 in the left. I was told that
I would only need the right eye done, since my left eye is not so bad
and it would deter reading problems as I got older, i.e. gives me
inherent monovision.

I've known three people that have had the procedure done, and all three
have had excellent results and are really satisfied with it. I guess
my vision isn't so bad that I could just wear glasses again, but the
problem is that I surf and having slightly blurred vision in the waves
all the time is starting to get a bit annoying. I would love to see
crystal clear water for all its worth.

PVI seems to be the best bet, but, I'm kinda turned off by some recent
events. I was originally quoted with $3 grand for one eye, which was a
reduction based on my VSP vision plan. I got a call today from the
coordinator there saying that there is an optometrist that wants to
watch the procedure done next week, and that if I opted for this
situation, that I would receive a discount of $500. It smells somewhat
fishy, as i'm sure she makes $$$ commission for every procedure done.
I was also originally quoted from this lady that the procedure would
cost in the neighborhood of $2500-3500 per eye, depending on the
circumstances. I figure with my right eye having really good corneal
thickness, mild myopia, and no other health problems, that I would be
in the low range of the original stated figures, namely, $2500. Now
i'm getting a call that sounds like, "Act now or it'll be TOO late"
pitch. Hmmmm... I was seriously considering having the surgery, but
I'm turned off now by the weird sales pitch here.

Anyhow, much thanks for all of the feedback. It's been truly
appreciated. I think i'll stick with glasses for awhile.

  #21  
Old 06-11-2006, 02:46 AM
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kawika.ho[at]gmail.com wrote:
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> Hello folks,
> I'm 32 years old, and have been considering LASIK for some time now.
> My vision isn't that bad, about 140/20 in the worst eye, but it's
> pretty annoying to see blurriness in dim lighting all the time. I'm
> doing some due dilligence, and have found some really cheap, and really
> expensive eye surgeons that perform LASIK in the Bay Area. Does anyone
> have any recommendations for me? I would like to consider more
> options.
> Aloha


Don't do it! Lasik ruined my eyes! Your eyes aren't even that bad but
they will be much worse if you make the lasik mistake!

  #20  
Old 06-11-2006, 02:11 AM
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Ace wrote:
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> When I got my lasik evaluation a while back, my pupils were never
> measured, the testing was incomplete. The technician just said your
> good to go for lasik. Of course I knew about the risks back then and I
> used the info I learned to do further research. No lasik for me, way
> too risky. I have nothing against lasik surgeons if they inform
> everyone of ALL THE RISKS! I am not against lasik as long as the person
> is completely informed, is told of all the risks and researches
> everything there is and reads all the bad lasik stories and admits
> theres a real risk. I know most people end with a good outcome, thats
> how surgeons make money. However some people are not good candidates or
> too picky to be happy. Linda, what kind of risks were you informed
> about? This is not a bash. Have a nice day!


I can just picture the under cover retard "setting up" the lasik
clinic.

  #19  
Old 06-10-2006, 01:35 PM
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Linda wrote:
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> Ace, I hope you never have to put your complete trust in a doctor if
> your opinion of them is so low. In your response, you are making the
> assumption that ALL lasik surgeons are in it for the money or do you
> mean just his surgeon? Wake up Ace, doctors are hardly going to make
> money if they routinely butcher people's eyes. How long do you think
> they would remain in practice once word started to spread? I cannot
> believe I am even reading this garbage.
> Linda


When I got my lasik evaluation a while back, my pupils were never
measured, the testing was incomplete. The technician just said your
good to go for lasik. Of course I knew about the risks back then and I
used the info I learned to do further research. No lasik for me, way
too risky. I have nothing against lasik surgeons if they inform
everyone of ALL THE RISKS! I am not against lasik as long as the person
is completely informed, is told of all the risks and researches
everything there is and reads all the bad lasik stories and admits
theres a real risk. I know most people end with a good outcome, thats
how surgeons make money. However some people are not good candidates or
too picky to be happy. Linda, what kind of risks were you informed
about? This is not a bash. Have a nice day!

  #18  
Old 06-10-2006, 12:36 PM
Linda
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Ace wrote:
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> Linda wrote:
> > Perhaps he should let his surgeon decide whether he is a candidate!
> > Despite what you think Ace, most surgeons are not going to recommend
> > Lasik to an unsuitable candidate. I have never heard anyone on this NG
> > recommending that everyone have Lasik. However, if someone had Lasik
> > surgery based only on an opinion expressed on this NG, they definitely
> > need help of the psychiatric kind!
> > Linda
> Right. Like the surgeon has his best interest? Money is what matters to
> him and unless he was a VERY poor candidate, the surgeon will consider
> him the "perfect" candidate. Why did he even post asking others if he
> already made his mind to get lasik? I dont think hes informed of the
> risks, most people arent and tons of people who have posted here with
> bad lasik results said they didnt know it could happen! I guess ill be
> wishing him luck and my condolences!(just in case)

Ace, I hope you never have to put your complete trust in a doctor if
your opinion of them is so low. In your response, you are making the
assumption that ALL lasik surgeons are in it for the money or do you
mean just his surgeon? Wake up Ace, doctors are hardly going to make
money if they routinely butcher people's eyes. How long do you think
they would remain in practice once word started to spread? I cannot
believe I am even reading this garbage.
Linda

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Old 06-10-2006, 12:15 PM
Ace
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Linda wrote:
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> Perhaps he should let his surgeon decide whether he is a candidate!
> Despite what you think Ace, most surgeons are not going to recommend
> Lasik to an unsuitable candidate. I have never heard anyone on this NG
> recommending that everyone have Lasik. However, if someone had Lasik
> surgery based only on an opinion expressed on this NG, they definitely
> need help of the psychiatric kind!
> Linda


Right. Like the surgeon has his best interest? Money is what matters to
him and unless he was a VERY poor candidate, the surgeon will consider
him the "perfect" candidate. Why did he even post asking others if he
already made his mind to get lasik? I dont think hes informed of the
risks, most people arent and tons of people who have posted here with
bad lasik results said they didnt know it could happen! I guess ill be
wishing him luck and my condolences!(just in case)

  #16  
Old 06-10-2006, 11:12 AM
Linda
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Ace wrote:
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> serebel wrote:
> > Ace wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Ignore him, hes the rude one and calls people names. He contributes
> > > nothing while I made a nice long post that raises some valad points.
> > > > Doesn't matter whether you make long posts, your points do not make
> > sense.
> > BTW, what's a "valad" point ?
> How do we know hes a candidate for lasik or if hes serious about lasik?
> Or if lasik is in his best interest? You tell everyone to get lasik,
> how would you feel if someone ruins his eyes because of what you said?

Perhaps he should let his surgeon decide whether he is a candidate!
Despite what you think Ace, most surgeons are not going to recommend
Lasik to an unsuitable candidate. I have never heard anyone on this NG
recommending that everyone have Lasik. However, if someone had Lasik
surgery based only on an opinion expressed on this NG, they definitely
need help of the psychiatric kind!
Linda

 

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