> I'm not a candidate for lasik because I have lupus so I opted for Ortho-K.
> I've read some of the archives & hope I'm not lambbasted here, but I'm on
> my 3rd nite & went from -4.50 to -2.00. So far, so good. Anyway, my neice
> is -10.00 &-8.00, can't have lasik (her corneas are too thin) & can't do
> Ortho-K. She was thinking about implants. Has anyone had experience with
> that? Thanks, Candi

> Yes... and at -2.5... you are about the best orthoK candidate there
> is. If you had a higher prescription, it wouldn't work. If you had a
> lower prescription, it wouldn't be worth the aggravation.
> I have one question for you though... why do you prefer orthok to soft
> contact lenses? When I wore contacts, soft lenses were inadequate
> and I had to wear RGPs-... I would have loved to do the orthok thing..
> but there is no chance orthok would work with my prescription.
> On 8 Nov 2006 17:25:47 -0800, "cg_aust" <cg_aust[at]yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> > My prescription is about -2.50 both eyes. Therefore I'm within the
> > treatable range. Very much doubt if Ace is within the treatable range.
> > He's way too high.
> > > > Ragnar wrote:
> > > Your account sounds like just what orthoK is supposed to do. I have
> > > one question that I think you answered before.. what is your
> > > prescription?
> > > > > > > On 7 Nov 2006 11:46:51 -0800, "cg_aust" <cg_aust[at]yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> > > > > > I've found it very effective. I don't know anyone else who's done
> > > > orthok either - that's why I ended up at google groups, trying to find
> > > > out more.
> > > > > > > I have to wear them every night, but comfort no longer an issue. They
> > > > don't cause any discomfort at all now. I can wear them as "normal"
> > > > contacts in the morning, till I get around to taking them out, I can
> > > > read in them at night before I sleep. The scratchiness, and pain I got
> > > > in the first few weeks totally disappeared a while ago.
> > > > > > > My eyes give extremely good vision all day / night. Night time driving
> > > > no problem. The only downside is that when the effect does wear off, it
> > > > doesn't wear off evenly - one eye goes downhill faster than the other.
> > > > By night time, one eye is noticeably weaker then the other. Still both
> > > > strong enough to function - driving etc no problem.
> > > > > > > Put my old glasses on yesterday out of curiosity - were uncomfortable
> > > > and useless.
> > > > > > > I still say orthok is second best to lasik - orthok is obviously not
> > > > permanent. But if you don't want to / can't try lasik, orthok is an
> > > > excellent alternative.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Candi Bowen wrote:
> > > > > That's great - 4 months, huh? How often do you have to wear them now?
> > > > > How's
> > > > > your vision? I don't know anyone who's has it.
> > > > > > > > > "cg_aust" <cg_aust[at]yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> > > > > news:1162628348.461338.210740[at]i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > > Not quite coorect Serebel. I've been doing orthok successfully for
> > > > > > about 4 months and have posted here quite a few times about it. Ace
> > > > > > seems to have an interest in it, but thus far has only talked about
> > > > > > it.
> > > > > > > > > > > Orthok works for me, I love the results and wish I'd started it
> > > > > > years
> > > > > > ago.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > serebel wrote:
> > > > > > > Candi Bowen wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Glenn, thanks for the info. I'll pass it along to my niece. When
> > > > > > > > she
> > > > > > > > told me
> > > > > > > > about possible 'implants', I didn't realize there were so many
> > > > > > > > options.
> > > > > > > > Maybe she didn't either, but she will now! I haven't personally
> > > > > > > > checked
> > > > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > the links, but she will. I can't be 'cut'; with lupus your
> > > > > > > > immune
> > > > > > > > system
> > > > > > > > thinks your own connective tissue is an allergen & attacks it,
> > > > > > > > causing
> > > > > > > > inflammation ie scar tissue. The ultimate allergy. Your immune
> > > > > > > > system
> > > > > > > > is so
> > > > > > > > busy ridding itself of collagen, there's nothing left over to
> > > > > > > > fight a
> > > > > > > > real
> > > > > > > > infection. Exact opposite of aids. So if someone with lupus gets
> > > > > > > > cut,
> > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > bit, or whatever, infection is a real problem. It's an
> > > > > > > > OVERactive
> > > > > > > > immune
> > > > > > > > system, not underactive. Just not enough to go around for the
> > > > > > > > real
> > > > > > > > stuff.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Candi,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Best of luck with the ortho-k, it's refreshing reading your post
> > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > someone who is actually doing as you claim. Since we hear little
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > actual OK experience( we have one person who tried it then had
> > > > > > > successful lasik)., then there's the retard(Ace) who feigns
> > > > > > > knowledge
> > > > > > > in this area.
> > > > > > > I, for one hope you will see better than -2 as you go forward.
> > > >

> cg_aust wrote:
> > My prescription is about -2.50 both eyes. Therefore I'm within the
> > treatable range. Very much doubt if Ace is within the treatable range.
> > He's way too high.
> > > Doesn't matter. The retard isn't going to do it anyway. He just
> flaps his internet gums. He won't do intacs either. His mommy won't
> give him the money for either.

> My prescription is about -2.50 both eyes. Therefore I'm within the
> treatable range. Very much doubt if Ace is within the treatable range.
> He's way too high.
> Ragnar wrote:
> > Your account sounds like just what orthoK is supposed to do. I have
> > one question that I think you answered before.. what is your
> > prescription?
> > > > On 7 Nov 2006 11:46:51 -0800, "cg_aust" <cg_aust[at]yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> > > > I've found it very effective. I don't know anyone else who's done
> > > orthok either - that's why I ended up at google groups, trying to find
> > > out more.
> > > > > I have to wear them every night, but comfort no longer an issue. They
> > > don't cause any discomfort at all now. I can wear them as "normal"
> > > contacts in the morning, till I get around to taking them out, I can
> > > read in them at night before I sleep. The scratchiness, and pain I got
> > > in the first few weeks totally disappeared a while ago.
> > > > > My eyes give extremely good vision all day / night. Night time driving
> > > no problem. The only downside is that when the effect does wear off, it
> > > doesn't wear off evenly - one eye goes downhill faster than the other.
> > > By night time, one eye is noticeably weaker then the other. Still both
> > > strong enough to function - driving etc no problem.
> > > > > Put my old glasses on yesterday out of curiosity - were uncomfortable
> > > and useless.
> > > > > I still say orthok is second best to lasik - orthok is obviously not
> > > permanent. But if you don't want to / can't try lasik, orthok is an
> > > excellent alternative.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Candi Bowen wrote:
> > > > That's great - 4 months, huh? How often do you have to wear them now? How's
> > > > your vision? I don't know anyone who's has it.
> > > > > > > "cg_aust" <cg_aust[at]yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> > > > news:1162628348.461338.210740[at]i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > Not quite coorect Serebel. I've been doing orthok successfully for
> > > > > about 4 months and have posted here quite a few times about it. Ace
> > > > > seems to have an interest in it, but thus far has only talked about it.
> > > > > > > > > Orthok works for me, I love the results and wish I'd started it years
> > > > > ago.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > serebel wrote:
> > > > > > Candi Bowen wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Glenn, thanks for the info. I'll pass it along to my niece. When she
> > > > > > > told me
> > > > > > > about possible 'implants', I didn't realize there were so many options.
> > > > > > > Maybe she didn't either, but she will now! I haven't personally checked
> > > > > > > out
> > > > > > > the links, but she will. I can't be 'cut'; with lupus your immune
> > > > > > > system
> > > > > > > thinks your own connective tissue is an allergen & attacks it, causing
> > > > > > > inflammation ie scar tissue. The ultimate allergy. Your immune system
> > > > > > > is so
> > > > > > > busy ridding itself of collagen, there's nothing left over to fight a
> > > > > > > real
> > > > > > > infection. Exact opposite of aids. So if someone with lupus gets cut,
> > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > bit, or whatever, infection is a real problem. It's an OVERactive
> > > > > > > immune
> > > > > > > system, not underactive. Just not enough to go around for the real
> > > > > > > stuff.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Candi,
> > > > > > > > > > > Best of luck with the ortho-k, it's refreshing reading your post as
> > > > > > someone who is actually doing as you claim. Since we hear little of
> > > > > > actual OK experience( we have one person who tried it then had
> > > > > > successful lasik)., then there's the retard(Ace) who feigns knowledge
> > > > > > in this area.
> > > > > > I, for one hope you will see better than -2 as you go forward.
> > > >

> My prescription is about -2.50 both eyes. Therefore I'm within the
> treatable range. Very much doubt if Ace is within the treatable range.
> He's way too high.

> Your account sounds like just what orthoK is supposed to do. I have
> one question that I think you answered before.. what is your
> prescription?
> On 7 Nov 2006 11:46:51 -0800, "cg_aust" <cg_aust[at]yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> > I've found it very effective. I don't know anyone else who's done
> > orthok either - that's why I ended up at google groups, trying to find
> > out more.
> > > I have to wear them every night, but comfort no longer an issue. They
> > don't cause any discomfort at all now. I can wear them as "normal"
> > contacts in the morning, till I get around to taking them out, I can
> > read in them at night before I sleep. The scratchiness, and pain I got
> > in the first few weeks totally disappeared a while ago.
> > > My eyes give extremely good vision all day / night. Night time driving
> > no problem. The only downside is that when the effect does wear off, it
> > doesn't wear off evenly - one eye goes downhill faster than the other.
> > By night time, one eye is noticeably weaker then the other. Still both
> > strong enough to function - driving etc no problem.
> > > Put my old glasses on yesterday out of curiosity - were uncomfortable
> > and useless.
> > > I still say orthok is second best to lasik - orthok is obviously not
> > permanent. But if you don't want to / can't try lasik, orthok is an
> > excellent alternative.
> > > > > > > Candi Bowen wrote:
> > > That's great - 4 months, huh? How often do you have to wear them now? How's
> > > your vision? I don't know anyone who's has it.
> > > > > "cg_aust" <cg_aust[at]yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> > > news:1162628348.461338.210740[at]i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > > > Not quite coorect Serebel. I've been doing orthok successfully for
> > > > about 4 months and have posted here quite a few times about it. Ace
> > > > seems to have an interest in it, but thus far has only talked about it.
> > > > > > > Orthok works for me, I love the results and wish I'd started it years
> > > > ago.
> > > > > > > > > > serebel wrote:
> > > > > Candi Bowen wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Glenn, thanks for the info. I'll pass it along to my niece. When she
> > > > > > told me
> > > > > > about possible 'implants', I didn't realize there were so many options.
> > > > > > Maybe she didn't either, but she will now! I haven't personally checked
> > > > > > out
> > > > > > the links, but she will. I can't be 'cut'; with lupus your immune
> > > > > > system
> > > > > > thinks your own connective tissue is an allergen & attacks it, causing
> > > > > > inflammation ie scar tissue. The ultimate allergy. Your immune system
> > > > > > is so
> > > > > > busy ridding itself of collagen, there's nothing left over to fight a
> > > > > > real
> > > > > > infection. Exact opposite of aids. So if someone with lupus gets cut,
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > bit, or whatever, infection is a real problem. It's an OVERactive
> > > > > > immune
> > > > > > system, not underactive. Just not enough to go around for the real
> > > > > > stuff.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Candi,
> > > > > > > > > Best of luck with the ortho-k, it's refreshing reading your post as
> > > > > someone who is actually doing as you claim. Since we hear little of
> > > > > actual OK experience( we have one person who tried it then had
> > > > > successful lasik)., then there's the retard(Ace) who feigns knowledge
> > > > > in this area.
> > > > > I, for one hope you will see better than -2 as you go forward.
> >

> I've found it very effective. I don't know anyone else who's done
> orthok either - that's why I ended up at google groups, trying to find
> out more.
> I have to wear them every night, but comfort no longer an issue. They
> don't cause any discomfort at all now. I can wear them as "normal"
> contacts in the morning, till I get around to taking them out, I can
> read in them at night before I sleep. The scratchiness, and pain I got
> in the first few weeks totally disappeared a while ago.
> My eyes give extremely good vision all day / night. Night time driving
> no problem. The only downside is that when the effect does wear off, it
> doesn't wear off evenly - one eye goes downhill faster than the other.
> By night time, one eye is noticeably weaker then the other. Still both
> strong enough to function - driving etc no problem.
> Put my old glasses on yesterday out of curiosity - were uncomfortable
> and useless.
> I still say orthok is second best to lasik - orthok is obviously not
> permanent. But if you don't want to / can't try lasik, orthok is an
> excellent alternative.
> Candi Bowen wrote:
> > That's great - 4 months, huh? How often do you have to wear them now? How's
> > your vision? I don't know anyone who's has it.
> > > "cg_aust" <cg_aust[at]yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> > news:1162628348.461338.210740[at]i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > > Not quite coorect Serebel. I've been doing orthok successfully for
> > > about 4 months and have posted here quite a few times about it. Ace
> > > seems to have an interest in it, but thus far has only talked about it.
> > > > > Orthok works for me, I love the results and wish I'd started it years
> > > ago.
> > > > > > > serebel wrote:
> > > > Candi Bowen wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Glenn, thanks for the info. I'll pass it along to my niece. When she
> > > > > told me
> > > > > about possible 'implants', I didn't realize there were so many options.
> > > > > Maybe she didn't either, but she will now! I haven't personally checked
> > > > > out
> > > > > the links, but she will. I can't be 'cut'; with lupus your immune
> > > > > system
> > > > > thinks your own connective tissue is an allergen & attacks it, causing
> > > > > inflammation ie scar tissue. The ultimate allergy. Your immune system
> > > > > is so
> > > > > busy ridding itself of collagen, there's nothing left over to fight a
> > > > > real
> > > > > infection. Exact opposite of aids. So if someone with lupus gets cut,
> > > > > or
> > > > > bit, or whatever, infection is a real problem. It's an OVERactive
> > > > > immune
> > > > > system, not underactive. Just not enough to go around for the real
> > > > > stuff.
> > > > > > > > > > Candi,
> > > > > > > Best of luck with the ortho-k, it's refreshing reading your post as
> > > > someone who is actually doing as you claim. Since we hear little of
> > > > actual OK experience( we have one person who tried it then had
> > > > successful lasik)., then there's the retard(Ace) who feigns knowledge
> > > > in this area.
> > > > I, for one hope you will see better than -2 as you go forward.
> >

> I've found it very effective. I don't know anyone else who's done
> orthok either - that's why I ended up at google groups, trying to find
> out more.
> I have to wear them every night, but comfort no longer an issue. They
> don't cause any discomfort at all now. I can wear them as "normal"
> contacts in the morning, till I get around to taking them out, I can
> read in them at night before I sleep. The scratchiness, and pain I got
> in the first few weeks totally disappeared a while ago.
> My eyes give extremely good vision all day / night. Night time driving
> no problem. The only downside is that when the effect does wear off, it
> doesn't wear off evenly - one eye goes downhill faster than the other.
> By night time, one eye is noticeably weaker then the other. Still both
> strong enough to function - driving etc no problem.
> Put my old glasses on yesterday out of curiosity - were uncomfortable
> and useless.
> I still say orthok is second best to lasik - orthok is obviously not
> permanent. But if you don't want to / can't try lasik, orthok is an
> excellent alternative.
> Candi Bowen wrote:
> > That's great - 4 months, huh? How often do you have to wear them now?
> > How's
> > your vision? I don't know anyone who's has it.
> > > "cg_aust" <cg_aust[at]yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> > news:1162628348.461338.210740[at]i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > > Not quite coorect Serebel. I've been doing orthok successfully for
> > > about 4 months and have posted here quite a few times about it. Ace
> > > seems to have an interest in it, but thus far has only talked about it.
> > > > > Orthok works for me, I love the results and wish I'd started it years
> > > ago.
> > > > > > > serebel wrote:
> > > > Candi Bowen wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Glenn, thanks for the info. I'll pass it along to my niece. When she
> > > > > told me
> > > > > about possible 'implants', I didn't realize there were so many
> > > > > options.
> > > > > Maybe she didn't either, but she will now! I haven't personally
> > > > > checked
> > > > > out
> > > > > the links, but she will. I can't be 'cut'; with lupus your immune
> > > > > system
> > > > > thinks your own connective tissue is an allergen & attacks it,
> > > > > causing
> > > > > inflammation ie scar tissue. The ultimate allergy. Your immune
> > > > > system
> > > > > is so
> > > > > busy ridding itself of collagen, there's nothing left over to fight
> > > > > a
> > > > > real
> > > > > infection. Exact opposite of aids. So if someone with lupus gets
> > > > > cut,
> > > > > or
> > > > > bit, or whatever, infection is a real problem. It's an OVERactive
> > > > > immune
> > > > > system, not underactive. Just not enough to go around for the real
> > > > > stuff.
> > > > > > > > > > Candi,
> > > > > > > Best of luck with the ortho-k, it's refreshing reading your post as
> > > > someone who is actually doing as you claim. Since we hear little of
> > > > actual OK experience( we have one person who tried it then had
> > > > successful lasik)., then there's the retard(Ace) who feigns knowledge
> > > > in this area.
> > > > I, for one hope you will see better than -2 as you go forward.
>

> That's great - 4 months, huh? How often do you have to wear them now? How's
> your vision? I don't know anyone who's has it.
> "cg_aust" <cg_aust[at]yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:1162628348.461338.210740[at]i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > Not quite coorect Serebel. I've been doing orthok successfully for
> > about 4 months and have posted here quite a few times about it. Ace
> > seems to have an interest in it, but thus far has only talked about it.
> > > Orthok works for me, I love the results and wish I'd started it years
> > ago.
> > > > serebel wrote:
> > > Candi Bowen wrote:
> > > > > > > Glenn, thanks for the info. I'll pass it along to my niece. When she
> > > > told me
> > > > about possible 'implants', I didn't realize there were so many options.
> > > > Maybe she didn't either, but she will now! I haven't personally checked
> > > > out
> > > > the links, but she will. I can't be 'cut'; with lupus your immune
> > > > system
> > > > thinks your own connective tissue is an allergen & attacks it, causing
> > > > inflammation ie scar tissue. The ultimate allergy. Your immune system
> > > > is so
> > > > busy ridding itself of collagen, there's nothing left over to fight a
> > > > real
> > > > infection. Exact opposite of aids. So if someone with lupus gets cut,
> > > > or
> > > > bit, or whatever, infection is a real problem. It's an OVERactive
> > > > immune
> > > > system, not underactive. Just not enough to go around for the real
> > > > stuff.
> > > > > > > Candi,
> > > > > Best of luck with the ortho-k, it's refreshing reading your post as
> > > someone who is actually doing as you claim. Since we hear little of
> > > actual OK experience( we have one person who tried it then had
> > > successful lasik)., then there's the retard(Ace) who feigns knowledge
> > > in this area.
> > > I, for one hope you will see better than -2 as you go forward.