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| On 2 Nov 2005 15:30:18 -0800, cutiepieusa[at]gmail.com wrote: - quote - > Are there any really great materials I should be looking at?
Spectralite and Seiko 1.6 are both very good choices for your stated preferencesand Rx. - quote - > And any
Zeiss Advantage is available in the Gold ET hue. The Advantage AR is one of the> suggestions on a good commonly available AR that's not green? (boy was > Gold ET tough to get and expensive but I loved it) best and is available on both lenses discussed above. Robert Martellaro ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Optician/Owner Roberts Optical robopt[at]execpc.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "An expert is a person who has made all the mistakes that can be made in a very narrow field." - Niels Bohr |
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| <nicoleh76[at]gmail.com> wrote in message news:1131032056.640190.203970[at]g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... - quote - > To be honest, I just choose the cheapest lenses possible. The most
(especially at Wal-Mart).> important thing is that you are able to see. Minus three is not thick > at all, so just go for normal lenses, whatever the cheapest is. What > did glasses wearers do before all of these types of lenses? Well, > that's a European standpoint. You in the States are so capitalistic. CR-39 is probably more expensive in Europe than Spectralite is in the US |
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| nicoleh76[at]gmail.com wrote: - quote - > To be honest, I just choose the cheapest lenses possible.
That's why most Europeans sound sort of nasal.> The most important thing is that you are able to see. > Minus three is not thick at all, so just go for normal > lenses, whatever the cheapest is. What did glasses > wearers do before all of these types of lenses? Well, > that's a European standpoint. You in the States are so > capitalistic. Those heavy glasses have squashed their noses... - ![]() -Quick |
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| To be honest, I just choose the cheapest lenses possible. The most important thing is that you are able to see. Minus three is not thick at all, so just go for normal lenses, whatever the cheapest is. What did glasses wearers do before all of these types of lenses? Well, that's a European standpoint. You in the States are so capitalistic. Sibirer (phonetically) wrote: - quote - > Hi there, > People choose CR-39 mostly because they are pinching pennies or they had a > clueless optician or salesperson. The other reason a person would choose > CR-39 is if they are in environments that expose them to organic solvents. > CR-39 was originally created to make B-17 fuel tanks, and later used for the > fuel lines in the engineers section so it is resistant to most organic > solvents. It is also very resistant to welders slag, (more so than glass > which pits every time slag hits it.) > Considering the number of people who come into my store in Alaska wearing > bedroom slippers and worn out Carharts overalls, I don't need to get into > the fashion issue. > Great materials? Well, there is a slew of polyurethanes out there. Essilor's > Ormex, Sola's Spectralite, Seiko's 1.6 are spendid; Rodenstock and Zeiss > also put out great polymers. It depends on availability in your area and > pricing. > Most ARs have a green reflection. That is the mid wavelength that humans can > percieve and means that the standard coating is clean. I believe Sola's > Teflon coating is blueish, Essilor's Crizal Alize is yellowish (This is what > I have and it is barely noticable to most people, ) the Zeiss coating can > be ordered in a few different colors. > Carl > <cutiepieusa[at]gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1130974218.443004.187640[at]g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Thank you VERY much That's exactly what I needed to hear! Yeah,> > twice as thick and I'd actually see the lenses and all, no thanks! > > Question - why then would anyone buy CR-39 compared to at the least, > > materials like Trivex? I mean other than cost, why would someone put up > > with such thick lenses? > > > Are there any really great materials I should be looking at? And any > > suggestions on a good commonly available AR that's not green? (boy was > > Gold ET tough to get and expensive but I loved it) |
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| Hi there, People choose CR-39 mostly because they are pinching pennies or they had a clueless optician or salesperson. The other reason a person would choose CR-39 is if they are in environments that expose them to organic solvents. CR-39 was originally created to make B-17 fuel tanks, and later used for the fuel lines in the engineers section so it is resistant to most organic solvents. It is also very resistant to welders slag, (more so than glass which pits every time slag hits it.) Considering the number of people who come into my store in Alaska wearing bedroom slippers and worn out Carharts overalls, I don't need to get into the fashion issue. Great materials? Well, there is a slew of polyurethanes out there. Essilor's Ormex, Sola's Spectralite, Seiko's 1.6 are spendid; Rodenstock and Zeiss also put out great polymers. It depends on availability in your area and pricing. Most ARs have a green reflection. That is the mid wavelength that humans can percieve and means that the standard coating is clean. I believe Sola's Teflon coating is blueish, Essilor's Crizal Alize is yellowish (This is what I have and it is barely noticable to most people, ) the Zeiss coating can be ordered in a few different colors. Carl <cutiepieusa[at]gmail.com> wrote in message news:1130974218.443004.187640[at]g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... - quote - > Thank you VERY much That's exactly what I needed to hear! Yeah,> twice as thick and I'd actually see the lenses and all, no thanks! > Question - why then would anyone buy CR-39 compared to at the least, > materials like Trivex? I mean other than cost, why would someone put up > with such thick lenses? > Are there any really great materials I should be looking at? And any > suggestions on a good commonly available AR that's not green? (boy was > Gold ET tough to get and expensive but I loved it) |
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| Thank you VERY much That's exactly what I needed to hear! Yeah,twice as thick and I'd actually see the lenses and all, no thanks! Question - why then would anyone buy CR-39 compared to at the least, materials like Trivex? I mean other than cost, why would someone put up with such thick lenses? Are there any really great materials I should be looking at? And any suggestions on a good commonly available AR that's not green? (boy was Gold ET tough to get and expensive but I loved it) |
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| On 1 Nov 2005 19:51:36 -0800, cutiepieusa[at]gmail.com wrote: - quote - > Thanks! That's what I was wondering as CR-39 is so much cheaper and
In your Rx in a small frame about twice as heavy and thick, due mostly to the> said to be good. > I'm very happy with the 1.60 aspheric Seiko lenses - there's zero > noticeable edge thickness (the lens is at most a mm thicker than the > frame at the sides and since it's balanced half to the front, half to > the back, you can't tell from any distance over a few inches that the > lens is thicker than the frame). I like that. It's not really worth > giving that up to save a few dollars. Though is CR-39 really any > HEAVIER? CR39's 2mm center thickness. Most higher index lenses have a 1mm CT. - quote - > I've been under the impression that the low specific gravity
Less expensive. About 5% thicker and heavier.> made the product sill LIGHTER. My current glasses are essentially > weightless (I can't feel the weight), the first pair (including ones > with another 1.60 material) I can say that about. > Isn't Spectralite MORE expensive than 1.60? - quote - > If I'm optically happy with > the 1.60's (which I very much am especially these new tiny aspheric > ones- it's just the polycarbonate I couldn't stand) what would be the > reason to spend more on Spectralite? I'm kinda looking CHEAPER > suggestions that still meet my needs But thanks very much for your> info! > Sincerely, > Mark Robert Martellaro ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Optician/Owner Roberts Optical robopt[at]execpc.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "An expert is a person who has made all the mistakes that can be made in a very narrow field." - Niels Bohr |
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| Thanks! That's what I was wondering as CR-39 is so much cheaper and said to be good. I'm very happy with the 1.60 aspheric Seiko lenses - there's zero noticeable edge thickness (the lens is at most a mm thicker than the frame at the sides and since it's balanced half to the front, half to the back, you can't tell from any distance over a few inches that the lens is thicker than the frame). I like that. It's not really worth giving that up to save a few dollars. Though is CR-39 really any HEAVIER? I've been under the impression that the low specific gravity made the product sill LIGHTER. My current glasses are essentially weightless (I can't feel the weight), the first pair (including ones with another 1.60 material) I can say that about. Isn't Spectralite MORE expensive than 1.60? If I'm optically happy with the 1.60's (which I very much am especially these new tiny aspheric ones- it's just the polycarbonate I couldn't stand) what would be the reason to spend more on Spectralite? I'm kinda looking CHEAPER suggestions that still meet my needs But thanks very much for yourinfo! Sincerely, Mark |
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| <cutiepieusa[at]gmail.com> wrote in message news:1130877305.482644.200040[at]o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... - quote - > I don't need safety glasses and I know from past experience that I
index lens. Sola Spectralite (1.53) would be a definite improvement in> can't stand polycarbonate and non-AR lenses. I'm curious how CR-39 > would be - is my prescription too strong to get reasonable thin CR-39 > lenses. My current Seiko's are quite nice - what would I be looking at > for CR-39 thickness compared to these? Twice? > Thanks, > Mark CR-39 (1.50 index) would definitely be thicker and heaver than a higher thickness and weight, with almost no loss in quality. The edge thickness is what would be noticeable in a minus lens like yours. How much it would be noticeable depends on the frame size and configuration. Most people with your Rx would probably use something a little thinner and lighter than CR-39. |
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| I don't need safety glasses and I know from past experience that I can't stand polycarbonate and non-AR lenses. I'm curious how CR-39 would be - is my prescription too strong to get reasonable thin CR-39 lenses. My current Seiko's are quite nice - what would I be looking at for CR-39 thickness compared to these? Twice? Thanks, Mark |
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