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Old 11-15-2005, 04:46 PM
Dr. Leukoma
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So what if your prescription goes from -5.00 to -4.00? Does that
"lessen" your dependency on corrective lenses? How so? If you are
hoping for more improvement than that, I have some land to sell you in
the Mojave dessert.

DrG

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Old 11-15-2005, 04:42 PM
Mike Tyner
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<acemanvx[at]yahoo.com> wrote

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> I have been wearing lower minus glasses than my pescription around the
> house(perfectly clear for near and intermediate) and a pair of glasses
> very near my pescription when I go out(one line less than my 20/30
> BCVA) I believe I have indeed achieved some improvement.

That's interesting. When Chung tried that on a group of 36 kids, they got
worse faster.

- quote -

> ill ever get to this point but any improvement will reduce my glasses
> dependancy.

And it will happen the same no matter how much energy you exert.

-MT


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Old 11-15-2005, 03:58 PM
acemanvx@yahoo.com
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Do they happen to be middle age or older? sometimes you become less
myopic durning that age. I want to become less myopic and im in my 20s.
I have been wearing lower minus glasses than my pescription around the
house(perfectly clear for near and intermediate) and a pair of glasses
very near my pescription when I go out(one line less than my 20/30
BCVA) I believe I have indeed achieved some improvement. My brother as
well but he never wears glasses, something I cant yet do, dont know if
ill ever get to this point but any improvement will reduce my glasses
dependancy.

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Old 11-15-2005, 11:48 AM
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acemanvx[at]yahoo.com wrote:
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> I do believe minus lenses make myopia progress faster. I used to be a
> -1 and now am a -5. My bro started out as -.75 and is only -1.25 since
> he almost never wears glasses so his eyes just didnt get worse.

Otherwise, you and your brother are exactly the same, right down to the
hairs on your head.

On the other hand, I have many patients who wear their minus lenses
constantly, and who become less myopic. Therefore, I must conclude
that minus lenses makes myopia better.

DrG

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Old 11-15-2005, 09:50 AM
acemanvx@yahoo.com
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I do believe minus lenses make myopia progress faster. I used to be a
-1 and now am a -5. My bro started out as -.75 and is only -1.25 since
he almost never wears glasses so his eyes just didnt get worse.

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Old 11-05-2005, 12:38 PM
Mike Tyner
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<otisbrown[at]pa.net> wrote

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> I am pleased that you think that developing
> stair-case myopia in children with an
> over-prescribed minus lens such a joke.
> I do not. But that is the difference between
> us.

There are some other differences.

You blame your doctors for causing your myopia.

You believe "neutralized" means "over-prescribed."

You believe putting -5D on an emmetropic baby chick has the same effect as
putting -1D on a myopic 10-year-old.

You've spent 20 years imagining the mechanism of myopia, and never measured
it once.

-MT


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Old 11-05-2005, 01:45 AM
p.clarkii@gmail.com
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staircase myopia in humans is a figment of your imagination.
and you worry too much about baby monkeys and chickens.

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Old 11-05-2005, 01:31 AM
otisbrown@pa.net
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Dear Mike,

I am pleased that you think that developing
stair-case myopia in children with an
over-prescribed minus lens such a joke.

I do not. But that is the difference between
us.

Best,

Otis

  #25  
Old 11-04-2005, 06:50 PM
Mike Tyner
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"Dr. Leukoma" <drg[at]leukoma.com> wrote

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> Ah, but in the "dynamic natural eye" (cough, cough, giggle),
> astigmatism can indeed be induced:

Yeah, sometimes it's tough to decide what to do for baby monkeys.

-MT


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Old 11-04-2005, 12:39 PM
Dr. Leukoma
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Mike Tyner wrote:

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> Astigmatism is not as dynamic as myopia or hyperopia, and it seems to make
> its changes inexorably as your skin would change with age, regardless of
> whether you wear glasses or not.
> -MT

Ah, but in the "dynamic natural eye" (cough, cough, giggle),
astigmatism can indeed be induced:
http://www.optvissci.com/pt/re/ovs/a...856145!9001!-1

DrG

 

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