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Old 12-31-2005, 01:11 AM
Ann
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Default Re: I went to the ophthamologist yesterday and here is what I learned from my eye test

On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 17:52:31 -0800, Dan Abel <dabel[at]sonic.net> wrote:

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> In article <ksjbr11c641nk0eitjahdp6pqphi9ik205[at]4ax.com> ,
> Ann <me[at]privacy.net> wrote:
> > On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 21:28:44 GMT, William Stacy <wstacy[at]obase.net> > wrote:
> > > You have arrived at
> > > > > sci.med.vision
> > > > > NOT
> > > > > alt.support.myopia
> > When you do your work, do you care for the people you work with or do
> > you just see them as eyes that need fixing? I'm guessing the latter
> > because you sure as hell don't have a clue about the former.
> I don't know how closely you have been following all these threads, but
> when I give out free advice, and people don't listen, and then they tell
> *me* how to do my job when they have no clue and admit to it, then it is
> time to switch the subject.
> When somebody is doing their "work", things are different. They are
> getting paid for it, and they put up with a lot more crap.

I know.. but I work with a certain group of people and when I see
people with similar difficulties being treated badly on usenet I don't
like it. I suppose others don't recognise what they see but I see it
so plainly and I can't do anything except not look which is not a
satisfactory answer.

I guess that's too cryptic!
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  #34  
Old 12-31-2005, 12:52 AM
Dan Abel
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Default Re: I went to the ophthamologist yesterday and here is what I learned from my eye test

In article <ksjbr11c641nk0eitjahdp6pqphi9ik205[at]4ax.com> ,
Ann <me[at]privacy.net> wrote:

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> On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 21:28:44 GMT, William Stacy <wstacy[at]obase.net> wrote:

> > You have arrived at
> > > sci.med.vision
> > > NOT
> > > alt.support.myopia

> When you do your work, do you care for the people you work with or do
> you just see them as eyes that need fixing? I'm guessing the latter
> because you sure as hell don't have a clue about the former.


I don't know how closely you have been following all these threads, but
when I give out free advice, and people don't listen, and then they tell
*me* how to do my job when they have no clue and admit to it, then it is
time to switch the subject.

When somebody is doing their "work", things are different. They are
getting paid for it, and they put up with a lot more crap.

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Dan Abel
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Petaluma, California, USA
  #33  
Old 12-31-2005, 12:43 AM
Neil Brooks
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Default Re: I went to the ophthamologist yesterday and here is what I learned from my eye test

Ann <me[at]privacy.net> wrote:

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> On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 00:31:15 GMT, Neil Brooks <Neil0502[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Ann <me[at]privacy.net> wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 21:28:44 GMT, William Stacy <wstacy[at]obase.net> > > wrote:
> > > > > > "It does not seem that you are being very supportive."
> > > > > > > Hello... It appears someone made a wrong turn...
> > > > > > > You have arrived at
> > > > > > > sci.med.vision
> > > > > > > NOT
> > > > > > > alt.support.myopia
> > > > > > > Please sound your ship's bell as you depart.
> > > > > > > Goodbye and Good Luck
> > > > > When you do your work, do you care for the people you work with or do
> > > you just see them as eyes that need fixing? I'm guessing the latter
> > > because you sure as hell don't have a clue about the former.
> > > > > Ann
> > > Wow, Ann.
> > > Are we missing a bit of context here, or what. I've watched Bill
> > Stacy post to this forum on and off for many years. I don't think you
> > could have done a poorer job of characterizing him if you tried.
> > > Bad gifts for Christmas??
> No, you can't read people well either. I wasn't attempting to
> characterise anyone. Responding to one post isn't a characterisation.
> This group has gone bad.. weird how this one and another mundane
> sounding group has gone bad at the same time.. but that's usenet..

I felt a little badly after my post. I over-reacted. I'm giving the
few remaining docs who dare to visit this forum a good deal of slack.
The net loons have scared most of them off.

I apologize if I snapped, electronically, at you.

Housecleaning on s.m.v. is simple in theory, though not easy in
practice.
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Old 12-31-2005, 12:28 AM
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Default Re: I went to the ophthamologist yesterday and here is what I learned from my eye test

On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 00:31:15 GMT, Neil Brooks <Neil0502[at]yahoo.comwrote:

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> Ann <me[at]privacy.net> wrote:
> > On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 21:28:44 GMT, William Stacy <wstacy[at]obase.net> > wrote:
> > > > "It does not seem that you are being very supportive."
> > > > > Hello... It appears someone made a wrong turn...
> > > > > You have arrived at
> > > > > sci.med.vision
> > > > > NOT
> > > > > alt.support.myopia
> > > > > Please sound your ship's bell as you depart.
> > > > > Goodbye and Good Luck
> > > When you do your work, do you care for the people you work with or do
> > you just see them as eyes that need fixing? I'm guessing the latter
> > because you sure as hell don't have a clue about the former.
> > > Ann
> Wow, Ann.
> Are we missing a bit of context here, or what. I've watched Bill
> Stacy post to this forum on and off for many years. I don't think you
> could have done a poorer job of characterizing him if you tried.
> Bad gifts for Christmas??

No, you can't read people well either. I wasn't attempting to
characterise anyone. Responding to one post isn't a characterisation.

This group has gone bad.. weird how this one and another mundane
sounding group has gone bad at the same time.. but that's usenet..
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Old 12-30-2005, 11:41 PM
Mike Tyner
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Default Re: I went to the ophthamologist yesterday and here is what I learned from my eye test


"Ann" <me[at]privacy.net> wrote

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> When you do your work, do you care for the people you work with or do
> you just see them as eyes that need fixing? I'm guessing the latter
> because you sure as hell don't have a clue about the former.

<sarcasmActually we see them as bottomless wallets, shelling out for visit after
visit to monitor our unproven myopia treatment techniques.
</sarcasm
-MT


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Old 12-30-2005, 11:31 PM
Neil Brooks
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Default Re: I went to the ophthamologist yesterday and here is what I learned from my eye test

Ann <me[at]privacy.net> wrote:

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> On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 21:28:44 GMT, William Stacy <wstacy[at]obase.net> wrote:
> > "It does not seem that you are being very supportive."
> > > Hello... It appears someone made a wrong turn...
> > > You have arrived at
> > > sci.med.vision
> > > NOT
> > > alt.support.myopia
> > > Please sound your ship's bell as you depart.
> > > Goodbye and Good Luck
> When you do your work, do you care for the people you work with or do
> you just see them as eyes that need fixing? I'm guessing the latter
> because you sure as hell don't have a clue about the former.
> Ann

Wow, Ann.

Are we missing a bit of context here, or what. I've watched Bill
Stacy post to this forum on and off for many years. I don't think you
could have done a poorer job of characterizing him if you tried.

Bad gifts for Christmas??
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Old 12-30-2005, 11:26 PM
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Default Re: I went to the ophthamologist yesterday and here is what I learned from my eye test

On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 21:28:44 GMT, William Stacy <wstacy[at]obase.netwrote:

- quote -

> "It does not seem that you are being very supportive."
> Hello... It appears someone made a wrong turn...
> You have arrived at
> sci.med.vision
> NOT
> alt.support.myopia
> Please sound your ship's bell as you depart.
> Goodbye and Good Luck

When you do your work, do you care for the people you work with or do
you just see them as eyes that need fixing? I'm guessing the latter
because you sure as hell don't have a clue about the former.

Ann
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Old 12-30-2005, 04:28 PM
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Absolutely. A complete medical history would be nice. I think he says
he doesn't drive, either, which makes me wonder.

DrG

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Old 12-30-2005, 04:23 PM
Neil Brooks
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Default Re: I went to the ophthamologist yesterday and here is what I learned from my eye test

"otisbrown[at]pa.net" <otisbrown[at]pa.net> wrote:

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> Ace> No one commented on the fact my cyclopentolate left +1.25 diopter
> residual accomodation.
> Otis> It can be difficult to create a "dead" eye with a paralyzing
> drug.
> This could be the case with you.
> Ace> Should I be having NO accomodation when
> cycoplegized with this agent?
> Otis> That depends on the judgment of the man
> who put the "drops" in your eyes.

Ace: please ignore Otis. He tends to be a bit of an idiot on things
like this.

It actually depends on age, gender, ciliary tone, iris color, and the
strength of the cycloplegic agent instilled. *These* factors are what
the doctor considers when using cycloplegia.
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Old 12-30-2005, 04:18 PM
Neil Brooks
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Default Re: I went to the ophthamologist yesterday and here is what I learned from my eye test

acemanvx[at]yahoo.com wrote:

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> Well I went to the ophthamologist looking for answers. What is he
> supposed to do about my accomodative insufficiency? Does the fact I got
> an incomplete cycloplegia give any clues to my condition?

Dear Ace-

Communication--by definition--is a combination of talking and
*listening*.

You have exhibited mastery of half of this equation: talking.

As others have pointed out here: you ask questions--sometimes *good*
questions, then summarily ignore the answers. Hmm. Why?

Old saying for you: a wise man can learn from a fool, but a fool
cannot learn from a wise man.

Sounds to me like you have some pseudomyopia. Sounds to me like
(again: I'm not a docotor) a drop of Homatropine might be indicated in
an effort to fully cycloplege you. Sounds to me like Dr. G. is giving
you good advice.....
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