Dick Adams wrote:
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I see we made it full circle back to the black helicopters...

-Quick

"William Stacy" <wstacy[at]obase.net> wrote in message
news:LSywf.4697fb4.1299[at]newssvr14.news.prodigy.com

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Oops! -- it looks like we still disagree on how to spell *inoculate*.

Well, maybe sometime soon there will be a Whole Food Drug Store
chain, with all natural and no preservatives.

I know something about why "health-care companies" do things in the
ways that they do. Capital appreciation, dividends, and executive
compensation have a lot to do with it. Disposables and obsolescence
are big items in their games.

--
Dicky

Since we pretty much agree on the second part of your post, this will be
my last on the subject.

On the definition of inocculate, even if you want "into" instead of
"onto", the outer surface of the eye IS A LIQUID (the complex tear layer
composed of lipd, aqueous and protein) a liquid that saline GOES INTO,
not onto, when instilled in the eye, and some of that even penetrates
the epithelium. So inocculate is what you do when you have any germs in
your saline. (which is why companies either use preservatives or use
single use only non preserved STERILE solutions).

w.stacy, o.d.

Dick Adams wrote:

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"William Stacy" <wstacy[at]obase.net> wrote in message news:URuwf.14875$oW.7830[at]newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...

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The definition implies "into" as opposed to "onto". Like, in medicine,
subcutaneous, intravenous, intraperitoneal ...

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T'were it so, we'd all be blind from birth or earlier. Our eyes enjoy
the benefits of our immune systems.

All kinds of shit flies into them. Well, onto them. A little bath in
tap water or salt water every now and then is good for them.

Especially after they have been messed around with by surgeons.

--
Dicky




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Dick Adams wrote:

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No problem there.


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Look up the definition. You will find that introducing a germ onto a
substrate is an acceptible definition, esp. in microbiology, which is
where this thread went. The eye is an ideal substrate (warm, wet,
mucoid, etc. etc). But thanks for spelling it right, anyway.

w.stacy, o.d.

"William Stacy" <wstacy[at]obase.net> wrote in message news:8smwf.4589$fb4.1881[at]newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...

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Well then, we could use tap water for misting our eyeballs. It should
have the advantage of stimulating tearing due to being mildly irritating.

Of course we are not inoculating anything, we are just wetting the
surface. You seem to be given to the practice of exaggeration.

--
Dicky

Dick Adams wrote:

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Oooh, even better. Mold and fungi especially like the dark!

After several months anything which might have
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Er, back to microbiology 1A Mr. Science. The mold and fungi will be
well established throughout your soup.

If I didn't believe that, I could
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Right, trust walgreens to provide STERILE distilled water. Not!

Table salt is sufficiently sterile, and
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Not sterile, for sure, but close enough.

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Oops. Here's where your "sterile technique" fails. As it cools, IT
SUCKS AMBIENT AIR INTO THE JUG. Can you guess what that ambient air has
in it?


I could start
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Folks, don't try this at home. Dicky, do you own a microscope? I'd
suggest putting a slide of that concoction under it...

I made it
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Don't tempt me, you olfactory cad, you...

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Call homeland security, someone!...

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Thanks, but no sir. Just don't want people mixing up their own saline,
storing it for a while, then innoculating their eyes with the product...

"William Stacy" <wstacy[at]obase.net> wrote in message news:TAlwf.4544$fb4.2095[at]newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...

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If one were worried about one's ability to make clean enough saline for
eyewash, one could instead buy "saline for irrigation" at the drug store.
I think I mentioned that.

What I do is make it a gallon at a time with tap water, and keep that
capped in a dark closet. After several months anything which might have
lived has died and settled to the bottom. If I didn't believe that, I could
use distilled water from Walgreens. Table salt is sufficiently sterile, and
since you are qualified to teach me microbiology, you will know why.
Also, I could boil the saline and pour it into a gallon jug which had been
baked at 400 degrees F., covered with aluminum foil. I could start
with tap water which had passed through an activated-carbon filter,
and a 0.22 micron Millipore filter. But why -- that old gallon in my
closet has not given me any trouble for at least two years. I made it
initially for nose douching, since I suffer dry nose during the heating
season. But it works fine for misting the eyes.

Since you are microbiologically capable, I propose to send you a vial of
the stuff in the closeted gallon, for you to plate onto agar culture media.
That should have some "beef" other than sodium chloride, which is
not known to be a microbiological nutrient.

You are a fun guy, Dr. Stacy. You're just trying to get me goin',
arn'cha?

--
Dicky

Dick Adams wrote:

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I never said you couldn't get tap water in your eye. Not a problem,
unless you are in some backwoods, swamp water town...

Tap water in the U.S. is fine to go in the eye. Home made saline is not
(unless you adhere to strict microbiological technique). Why don't you
respond to THAT part of my post, Mr. Science????

w.stacy, o.d.

"William Stacy" <wstacy[at]obase.net> in message
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said this about home-made eyewash solution:

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Don't worry. But don't forget your goggles when you shower.

--
Dicky