contacts for toddlers

#22 03-13-2006, 05:30 AM

i will email you, thank you.

CatmanX wrote:
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> There are a few things I would also be looking at.
> 1) Has your doctor done b-scan ultrasonography to assess for
> Lenticonus?
> 2) Is there any improvement with the -10.5 over no script? If not,
> glasses and CL's are really not going to do anything about improving
> the vision.
> 3) If going for contacts, I would be looking at (in order of
> preference):
> a) Menicon Z lenses (RGP hyper oxygen material - the best lens
> for kids)
> b) Focus Night and Day (not sure how high they go in minus and
> cyl corrections)
> c) PureVision (they go to -11.0 and have astigmatic lenses)
> email me at drgrant[at]ozemail.com.au and we can discuss this some more
> without the hysterical rants of the twirps like Nancy and Otis.
> dr grant

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#21 03-13-2006, 05:29 AM

from the last doctor at bascom palmer it appears that the dead center of her
eye is the high myopia. but as you go away from the "nucleus" it gets alot
better. the doctor also brought others in and never seen anything like it
before. she does see better with her glasses(about 20/50) and wears them with
no complaints. but when she takes them off she can still see decent. i try to
give her an hour a day without them to relax her eyes. she does not complain
when they are off either. the doctors still think it could be lenticonus but
it is not showing the way it normally does. they did an ultrasound on her and
all he said was the eyes looked fine. i will ask him again when i see him
next week.

otisbrown[at]pa.net wrote:
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> Dear Concerned Parent,
> Subejct: Please contact dr grant.
> You NEED a good second-opinion here. If your child
> is seeing 20/60, then a -10.5 diopter "prescription" is
> far in excess of anything that is reasonable.
> I would bet that some of these ODs -- if it were
> their own grandchild -- would do everything
> in their power to avoid the use of a -10.5 diopter
> lens on a child that sees 20/60.
> Dr. Grant and I have our differences, but you need
> his advice -- totally. And it is "now or never".
> Grant> Is there any improvement with the -10.5 over no script? If not,
> glasses and CL's are really not going to do anything about improving
> the vision.
> Otis> What bothers me is that the ophthalmologists who
> want to prescribe a -10.5 diopter lens -- never
> seem to ask that question.
> Please see Dr. Grant.
> Best,
> Otis

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#20 03-13-2006, 05:29 AM

from the last doctor at bascom palmer it appears that the dead center of her
eye is the high myopia. but as you go away from the "nucleus" it gets alot
better. the doctor also brought others in and never seen anything like it
before. she does see better with her glasses(about 20/50) and wears them with
no complaints. but when she takes them off she can still see decent. i try to
give her an hour a day without them to relax her eyes. she does not complain
when they are off either. the doctors still think it could be lenticonus but
it is not showing the way it normally does. they did an ultrasound on her and
all he said was the eyes looked fine. i will ask him again when i see him
next week.

otisbrown[at]pa.net wrote:
- quote -

> Dear Concerned Parent,
> Subejct: Please contact dr grant.
> You NEED a good second-opinion here. If your child
> is seeing 20/60, then a -10.5 diopter "prescription" is
> far in excess of anything that is reasonable.
> I would bet that some of these ODs -- if it were
> their own grandchild -- would do everything
> in their power to avoid the use of a -10.5 diopter
> lens on a child that sees 20/60.
> Dr. Grant and I have our differences, but you need
> his advice -- totally. And it is "now or never".
> Grant> Is there any improvement with the -10.5 over no script? If not,
> glasses and CL's are really not going to do anything about improving
> the vision.
> Otis> What bothers me is that the ophthalmologists who
> want to prescribe a -10.5 diopter lens -- never
> seem to ask that question.
> Please see Dr. Grant.
> Best,
> Otis

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#19 03-13-2006, 01:05 AM

Dear Concerned Parent,

Subejct: Please contact dr grant.

You NEED a good second-opinion here. If your child
is seeing 20/60, then a -10.5 diopter "prescription" is
far in excess of anything that is reasonable.

I would bet that some of these ODs -- if it were
their own grandchild -- would do everything
in their power to avoid the use of a -10.5 diopter
lens on a child that sees 20/60.

Dr. Grant and I have our differences, but you need
his advice -- totally. And it is "now or never".

Grant> Is there any improvement with the -10.5 over no script? If not,

glasses and CL's are really not going to do anything about improving
the vision.

Otis> What bothers me is that the ophthalmologists who
want to prescribe a -10.5 diopter lens -- never
seem to ask that question.

Please see Dr. Grant.

Best,

Otis

#18 03-13-2006, 12:03 AM

Oh bugger, that's right. What was I thinking?

grant

#17 03-12-2006, 11:59 PM

In article <1142210588.456728.268500[at]z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> ,
"CatmanX" <drgrant[at]ozemail.com.au> wrote:

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> Your own OD doesn't either as
> he would be able to give you OK lenses that you desire so much.

Whatsup Grant. Ya stupid or something? Ace's OD would never give Ace OK
lenses because he says it's bad to sleep in lenses. Sheesh.

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#16 03-12-2006, 11:50 PM

There are a few things I would also be looking at.

1) Has your doctor done b-scan ultrasonography to assess for
Lenticonus?

2) Is there any improvement with the -10.5 over no script? If not,
glasses and CL's are really not going to do anything about improving
the vision.

3) If going for contacts, I would be looking at (in order of
preference):
a) Menicon Z lenses (RGP hyper oxygen material - the best lens
for kids)
b) Focus Night and Day (not sure how high they go in minus and
cyl corrections)
c) PureVision (they go to -11.0 and have astigmatic lenses)

email me at drgrant[at]ozemail.com.au and we can discuss this some more
without the hysterical rants of the twirps like Nancy and Otis.

dr grant

#15 03-12-2006, 11:43 PM

Nancy, noone believes you because you are not only stupid, but you
don't know anything about contact lenses. Your own OD doesn't either as
he would be able to give you OK lenses that you desire so much.

The FDA has approved 3 soft lenses and several RGP materials for EW. I
suppose you OD knows more than the FDA? You probably know more than the
FDA too as you are an expert on OK as well as Lasik.

dr grant

#14 03-12-2006, 10:58 PM

"i thought more problems arise with leaving contacts in over night.
when i use
to wear contacts i was told not to leave them in. also my daughter will
have
to wear lenses for people with high astigmatism. will this make fitting
any
harder? and any suggestions on brands?"

If you dont believe me, I invite you to speak to my own optometrist. He
tells people NOT to wear extend wear contacts and NOT to sleep in them.
Do you think contacts will help her when glasses do nothing?

#13 03-12-2006, 02:08 PM

Yes Otis, this forum is certainly open to anyone to post. Learned or
unlearned. And you are in the latter category. You continually put your
foot in your mouth and make a total fool of yourself.

There is no "Sceond Opinion" that exists anywhere in the eye care profession
except in the heads of a few total amateurs and idiots like yourself who
don't follow myopia research. There are no facts whatsoever that back you
your claims, but for whatever reason that doesn't stop you from giving wrong
advise to people.

May the State of Pennsylvania take action against your forthwith!

http://nbeener.com/OTIS_INVESTIGATION.pdf
http://www.nbeener.com/Oda_May_Brown.html?1107470227575

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> Dear PClar,
> Subject: An open forum.
> Sci.med.vision is open to the
> public, and people that you
> hate, Ace, and many others
> are free to post their statements.
> If you do not like it -- well
> that is the nature of free speech.
> I would point out that you
> express the majority opinon,
> but NOT the second-opinion
> on the subject of preventing
> a negative refractive state
> of the fundmental eye.
> See:
> www.chinamyopia.org
> for details.
> Best,
> Otis

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