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Old 03-15-2006, 09:36 AM
Tony\(UK\)
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"Dom" <dont[at]spam.me> wrote in message news:4417D1E2.4020806[at]spam.me...
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> Tony(UK) wrote:
> > "Dom" <dont[at]spam.me> wrote in message news:4416A898.4060700[at]spam.me...
> > > > Tony what is your age?
snipped for brevity
> When you described your vision as being clear at first but then becoming
> blurry after only a few minutes, I thought of the possibility of dry eye -
> it's common in diabetics especially with peripheral neuropathy and it's
> also a common side effect of many medications.
> Do you have a dry mouth? If so this makes dry eye a more likely culprit.
> Dry eye can cause vision to fluctuate from minute to minute as the tear
> film changes consistency & coverage. Vision changes due to blood sugar
> changes wouldn't be that quick. Also, dry eye if severe enough can make
> you light-sensitive due to temporary drying and partial 'haze' of the
> corneal epithelium (surface cell layer) (superficial keratitis). You
> wouldn't necessarily feel any other symptoms such as sore eyes. Sometimes
> eyes that are dry actually become watery (overcompensation).
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract
> http://www.alconlabs.com/us/aj/disor...ye/Index.jhtml
> http://www.emedicine.com/OPH/topic597.htm (and scroll down)
> Re. driving at night: if you normally have the vents in the car directed
> at your face this will exacerbate any existing dry eye problem in that
> particular situation and therefore make the oncoming headlights more
> dazzling.
> The other possibility I thought of was if you have a slight 'defect' or
> strain in your general/longer distance vision, as opposed to your reading
> vision which we already know is blurred. If you used to wear glasses for
> long distance then maybe you need to go back to them? Not so sure about
> this one though, now that I know your age, and especially without seeing
> your optical prescription.
> Dry eye is only one idea, your medications might well be involved too.
> But my money's on the dry eye thing. If any of what I've written sounds
> plausible to you, try some artificial tears every 2 hours (don't hold
> back, more is better) for a few days, and especially 5 minutes before you
> sit down to read something. If you read for more than say 20-30 minutes
> you might need some more again. Try Systane or Bion Tears.
> Dom (also in Oz!)
Dry mouth, watery eyes - both are spot on. I squint and blink alot. You may
well have hit on something here, and I'll definately give it a go with the
artificial tears and dr grants suggestions. What a group! I've learned a
lot, and if it's OK, will report back with my findings. Just been prescribed
Baclofen for my muscle spasms, so I'll wait a little while and see.

Many thanks (from the heart) for all the help. I think I'm in the wrong
country :-)

Tony(UK)


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Old 03-15-2006, 07:35 AM
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Tony(UK) wrote:
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> "Dom" <dont[at]spam.me> wrote in message news:4416A898.4060700[at]spam.me...
> > Tony what is your age?
> > > And are your glasses purely single-vision reading lenses or are they
> > multifocals (or bifocals)?
> > > And I don't suppose you would have a copy of your optical prescription
> > (including distance vision and the Add) that you could copy to this group?
> > > Dom
> Dom
> I am 50, but I'm afraid I do not have a copy of my optical prescription. All
> I am aware of is that I used to wear glasses for long-distance, but the
> optician said she thought I don't need them anymore, only when I am tired
> (?). On the day, both eyes were the same, needing 1.25 lenses. I have to
> wear non-prescription reading glasses of a range 1.5 to 2.00 to be able to
> *see* a computer screen or book. After a couple of minutes though,
> everything goes out of focus again (blurred) and I'm back to square one.
> (I've changed glasses twice while I write this). I did go back, but no help
> or advice was forthcoming. Nor the doctor, I'm afraid.
> Thank you very much for taking interest - sorry I cannot be of more help. I
> have a distinct feeling it may be more than diabetes - it is quite stable,
> and tend to think it may be neurological, what are your feelings on this
> bearing in mind my previous posts?
> Tony(UK)

When you described your vision as being clear at first but then becoming
blurry after only a few minutes, I thought of the possibility of dry eye
- it's common in diabetics especially with peripheral neuropathy and
it's also a common side effect of many medications.

Do you have a dry mouth? If so this makes dry eye a more likely culprit.

Dry eye can cause vision to fluctuate from minute to minute as the tear
film changes consistency & coverage. Vision changes due to blood sugar
changes wouldn't be that quick. Also, dry eye if severe enough can make
you light-sensitive due to temporary drying and partial 'haze' of the
corneal epithelium (surface cell layer) (superficial keratitis). You
wouldn't necessarily feel any other symptoms such as sore eyes.
Sometimes eyes that are dry actually become watery (overcompensation).

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract
http://www.alconlabs.com/us/aj/disor...ye/Index.jhtml
http://www.emedicine.com/OPH/topic597.htm (and scroll down)


Re. driving at night: if you normally have the vents in the car directed
at your face this will exacerbate any existing dry eye problem in that
particular situation and therefore make the oncoming headlights more
dazzling.

The other possibility I thought of was if you have a slight 'defect' or
strain in your general/longer distance vision, as opposed to your
reading vision which we already know is blurred. If you used to wear
glasses for long distance then maybe you need to go back to them? Not so
sure about this one though, now that I know your age, and especially
without seeing your optical prescription.

Dry eye is only one idea, your medications might well be involved too.

But my money's on the dry eye thing. If any of what I've written sounds
plausible to you, try some artificial tears every 2 hours (don't hold
back, more is better) for a few days, and especially 5 minutes before
you sit down to read something. If you read for more than say 20-30
minutes you might need some more again. Try Systane or Bion Tears.

Dom (also in Oz!)

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Old 03-15-2006, 05:11 AM
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Dick Adams wrote:

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> "The Real Bev" <bashley101+usenet[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> > This website may or may not help. I couldn't find 'aspirin' in either the
> > patient's page or the professional's page for metformin, but it's better
> > than nothing.
> > http://search.drugs.com/search.php
> Aspirin is acetylsalicylic acid. Who would know that? Probably not even
> pharmacists anymore.

I did, but it seemed to approve of it. I remember when some aspirin
manufacturer claimed their product was made of sodium acetylsalicylate.
That's fun to say.

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Old 03-15-2006, 03:26 AM
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"The Real Bev" <bashley101+usenet[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
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> This website may or may not help. I couldn't find 'aspirin' in either the
> patient's page or the professional's page for metformin, but it's better
> than nothing.

> http://search.drugs.com/search.php

Aspirin is acetylsalicylic acid. Who would know that? Probably not even
pharmacists anymore.
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Old 03-15-2006, 02:00 AM
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Tony(UK) wrote:

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> "CatmanX" <drgrant[at]ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> > I have a computer program that you list all the drugs and it tells you
> > all the problems that can occur. These are possible interactions, not
> > definitive that they will occur.
> I'd very much
> like that computer programme, but I think it would be for doctors only :-)
> Cheers and many thanks from Linton, Cambridge, United Kingdom LOL

This website may or may not help. I couldn't find 'aspirin' in either the
patient's page or the professional's page for metformin, but it's better
than nothing.

http://search.drugs.com/search.php

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Old 03-14-2006, 03:12 PM
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On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:39:29 -0000, "Tony\(UK\)"
<tony_smith100[at]hotmail.com> spewed forth :

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> BS is stable
> throughout the day - the rest of me isn't :-) Up to three readings
> throughout the day.

Three BG tests daily can't really tell you if your BG is "stable" or
not no matter what your physician tells you. I test as frequently as
12 times per day, especially when I've been unwise and tanked up on
something carby.

Whip out the meter when you notice any change in your vision - clean
your hands thoroughly and test your BG. Variations in BG of as little
as 15 points can affect vision. Consistently high BG, or large swings
in BG, can also affect vision. Diabetes - T1, T2, controlled or
otherwise - makes us candidates for all sorts of eye problems. You
should have a dilated eye exam on an annual basis, more frequently if
your BG is under poor control.

Back to the testing thing: You should take a fasting BG, 1- and
2-hour post-prandials, test before all meals and snacks, and take a
bedtime reading as well. Do this until you know how different carby
foods affect your BG and modify your diet accordingly. Better control
reduces all sorts of nasty problems diabetecs can develop.

+++++++++++++

Reply to the list as I do not publish an email address to USENET.
This practice has cut my spam by more than 95%.
Of course, I did have to abandon a perfectly good email account...
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Old 03-14-2006, 11:27 AM
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"Dom" <dont[at]spam.me> wrote in message news:4416A898.4060700[at]spam.me...
- quote -

> Tony what is your age?
> And are your glasses purely single-vision reading lenses or are they
> multifocals (or bifocals)?
> And I don't suppose you would have a copy of your optical prescription
> (including distance vision and the Add) that you could copy to this group?
> Dom
Dom
I am 50, but I'm afraid I do not have a copy of my optical prescription. All
I am aware of is that I used to wear glasses for long-distance, but the
optician said she thought I don't need them anymore, only when I am tired
(?). On the day, both eyes were the same, needing 1.25 lenses. I have to
wear non-prescription reading glasses of a range 1.5 to 2.00 to be able to
*see* a computer screen or book. After a couple of minutes though,
everything goes out of focus again (blurred) and I'm back to square one.
(I've changed glasses twice while I write this). I did go back, but no help
or advice was forthcoming. Nor the doctor, I'm afraid.
Thank you very much for taking interest - sorry I cannot be of more help. I
have a distinct feeling it may be more than diabetes - it is quite stable,
and tend to think it may be neurological, what are your feelings on this
bearing in mind my previous posts?

Tony(UK)


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Old 03-14-2006, 10:27 AM
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Tony(UK) wrote:
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> I have peripheral neuropathy (progressive, poly), type2 diabetes, and my
> ability to focus changes continually throughout the day, depending on the
> time of day, tiredness, ambient light, etc.
> With my ongoing neurological problems, obviously, when I have an eye
> examination, Opticians can only check how my eyes are at that moment, so I
> am having to rely on 3 or 4 pairs of different strength reading glasses. I
> am also very sensitive to bright lights, and driving in the dark is
> difficult, as I liken myself to a moth - I want to follow oncoming
> headlights. I have been told not to drive in the dark by the practioner but
> I am unsure how I stand legally on this (I am in the UK). My doctor is
> unable to provide any answers, only sympathise.
> My questions are.
> Is there a term for this condition?
> Would my problems be likely to the miriad of medication I am taking (too
> long to list here).
> Can anything be done to help me?
> Sorry to bring this to the group, but I am really struggling now.
> Thank you for reading,
> Tony(UK)

Tony what is your age?

And are your glasses purely single-vision reading lenses or are they
multifocals (or bifocals)?

And I don't suppose you would have a copy of your optical prescription
(including distance vision and the Add) that you could copy to this group?

Dom
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Old 03-14-2006, 10:14 AM
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"CatmanX" <drgrant[at]ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:1142334341.505627.213260[at]i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
- quote -

> I have a computer program that you list all the drugs and it tells you
> all the problems that can occur. These are possible interactions, not
> definitive that they will occur.
> You need to start looking at the options, food through the day, BS
> variance over the course of a day, other possible disease markers,
> maculopathy etc. Sometimes it can be hard to find the cause, but if you
> keep your eyes and ears open, you never know.
> About the cinnamon, I take it in 50ml of water and wash it down with
> another glass of water. Yes, it tastes pretty shitty, but has a similar
> active compound to Metformin and helps stabilise BS.
> Cheers from downunder (where the bloody hell are you? LOL)
> dr grant
Thank you for all your help dr, I will do what you suggest. I'd very much
like that computer programme, but I think it would be for doctors only :-)
Cheers and many thanks from Linton, Cambridge, United Kingdom LOL


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Old 03-14-2006, 10:05 AM
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I have a computer program that you list all the drugs and it tells you
all the problems that can occur. These are possible interactions, not
definitive that they will occur.

You need to start looking at the options, food through the day, BS
variance over the course of a day, other possible disease markers,
maculopathy etc. Sometimes it can be hard to find the cause, but if you
keep your eyes and ears open, you never know.

About the cinnamon, I take it in 50ml of water and wash it down with
another glass of water. Yes, it tastes pretty shitty, but has a similar
active compound to Metformin and helps stabilise BS.

Cheers from downunder (where the bloody hell are you? LOL)

dr grant

 

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