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Old 05-03-2006, 05:44 PM
Dan Abel
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In article <1146655288.263239.50980[at]j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> ,
"Dr. Leukoma" <drg[at]leukoma.com> wrote:


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> uncommon, though, and those who want to see near and far clearly will
> need a multifocal lens.


That's funny. I don't have one.

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Old 05-03-2006, 11:21 AM
Dr. Leukoma
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Rev Jessie James wrote:
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> Well over 40 here.. Can still focus fine at 6" or ( 5280 ft. thanks to lasik ). I think that it it is a gross generalization that everyone over 40 has accommodation problems and needs bifocals..
> I know several people that didn't need bifocals or reading glasses their 70s. My mom didn't need reading glasses until she was close to 80. BTW she is still driving at 90!
> Hopefully the age at one becomes farsighted is based on genetics!

It is based on genetics...of homo sapiens. The laws of physics and
physiological optics are immutable.

Presbyopia i-n-v-a-r-i-a-b-l-y occurs in one's fourth decade. At this
time, the only variables would be the individual's refractive error.
If they are nearsighted in the right amount, they can read without
reading glasses, but they cannot see far. The other variable is pupil
size. Very small pinpoint pupils bypass the optics of the eye to a
great extent, and create a large depth of focus. This is relatively
uncommon, though, and those who want to see near and far clearly will
need a multifocal lens.

DrG

  #29  
Old 05-03-2006, 05:40 AM
Dan Abel
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In article <zDW5g.66968$F_3.63550[at]newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> ,
"Rev Jessie James" <Jessie[at]yahoo.com> wrote:

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> Well over 40 here.. Can still focus fine at 6" or ( 5280 ft. thanks to
> lasik ). I think that it it is a gross generalization that everyone over 40
> has accommodation problems and needs bifocals..


Yup, a gross generalization. That doesn't mean it isn't true, though.
There are certainly exceptions.

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Old 05-03-2006, 04:49 AM
Rev Jessie James
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Well over 40 here.. Can still focus fine at 6" or ( 5280 ft. thanks to lasik ). I think that it it is a gross generalization that everyone over 40 has accommodation problems and needs bifocals..

I know several people that didn't need bifocals or reading glasses their 70s. My mom didn't need reading glasses until she was close to 80. BTW she is still driving at 90!

Hopefully the age at one becomes farsighted is based on genetics!

"Robert Kopp" <koppr[at]hevanet.com> wrote in message newsan.2006.04.27.07.21.08.266000[at]hevanet.com...
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 01:12:40 +0000, Salmon Egg wrote:

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> On 4/26/06 3:34 PM, in article
> 1146090885.009825.258950[at]g10g...oglegroups.com, "rwj81[at]yahoo.com"
> <rwj81[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I also found a site offering good frames and lenses for $39 here
> > http://www.anrdoezrs.net/click-1889199-8351206 . Coupon code- 1889
> > By the time you get a real pair of glasses as opposed to an unrealistic
> bogey pair, the price does not look all that low.
Well, for one thing, that would be single vision. Most people on this
list, if they are concerned about medical eye problems, are probably over
40. I am.

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Old 05-01-2006, 12:15 PM
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LarryDoc <larrybic[at]yahoo.remove.com> wrote in news:larrybic-
521E90.20520528042006[at]news.verizon.net:

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> Sometimes, you get what you pay for.
> --LB, O.D.

Thanks for clearing this up. Looks like I was asking the right questions.

I have no trouble paying a fair price, and I see the sillyness and
hypocricy involved in gladly paying $150 for a fancy pair of sneakers, and
then moaning about the cost of prescription eyewear.

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Old 04-29-2006, 06:46 PM
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In article <larrybic-521E90.20520528042006[at]news.verizon.net> ,
LarryDoc <larrybic[at]yahoo.remove.com> wrote:

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> In article <Xns97B3B40DF65CCscottseidmanmindspri[at]130.133.1.4> ,
> Scott Seidman <namdiesttocs[at]mindspring.com> wrote:
> I'm going to try to demystify this one:
> > Enter progressives. This is a luxury item, and folks expect to pay more.
> > Certainly, the base cost of the lenses is more, but from the optical
> > shops point of view, other than the increased cost of the lenses, what
> > are the additional costs for the optical shop that merit an increased
> > markup? Are they harder to fit? How much harder? Is there a
> > certification or training process? Is there a problem finding opticians
> > qualified to dispense?
> Progressives are not necessarily "a luxury item." For some folks,
> they're the best optical option.

Thanks. This was very informative.


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> Sometimes, you get what you pay for.


And sometimes you don't.

I have really mixed feelings. Vision is probably the #1 sense for
humans, making it really important. I have no problem paying a bunch of
money. Having said that, I buy my glasses off the shelf at Costco, for
US$18.99 for three pairs.

We paid a lot of money for my wife's progressives. That's what she
likes and wants. Over the three years that she has had them, the cost
is negligible. She shows no signs of wanting new ones, so the cost per
day will keep dropping.

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Old 04-29-2006, 04:56 PM
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In article <XcK4g.1018$g01.398[at]trnddc01> ,
"Dick Adams" <bad.addr[at]nonexist.com> wrote:

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> "Dan Abel" <dabel[at]sonic.net> wrote in message
> news:dabel-8D3CBA.18080928042006[at]nnrp-virt.nntp.sonic.net...
> > In article <Vyw4g.557$ZL6.441[at]trndny04> ,
> > "Dick Adams" <bad.addr[at]nonexist.com> wrote:
> > > For most people, a very simple pair of eyeglasses work best. But people
> > > are encouraged to desire more complex and expensive solutions.
> > So where do you get off telling people what works best?
> S'pose I should have added IMHO, and qualified not to include people
> who do not need eyeglasses.

The correct acronym here is "IMNSHO".

:-)



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> Not everybody can learn to use progressive lenses - it takes a bit
> of savvy and coordination to learn how to move the head to bring
> certain items into focus. When one is trying to concentrate on things
> that are whizzing around, like balls, if grows even more difficult.

I couldn't even manage simple bifocals, although I'm convinced that part
of the problem was that they were 1/2" thick.


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> > Look at the response to your use of "professional" words on this
> > group. It caused a lot of upset, I think mostly due to the fact that
> > you had no clue what the words meant.
> Doubtful if you have any clue about what you are allegedly referring
> to. I am an advocate for expanding acronyms and replacing jargon
> with descriptive phrases. Some jargon items have very imprecise
> referents. Asking for qualification and definition of terms does get
> me into trouble with professional people every now and then.


It is a prime responsibility of professional folks to define terms and
concepts (IMNSHO). As a former professional, these acronyms and jargon
are wonderful ways to communicate between professionals.


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> > I don't pretend to a lot of knowledge about vision stuff. I do try to
> > understand enough about my own issues.
> You are a delightfully humble individual. I wish you success to figure
> out what is going on with you.


Thanks. Things are going well now as far as vision issues, and seem
stable.

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Old 04-29-2006, 04:52 PM
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Orki wrote:

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> I found Zenni Optical on the net a few weeks ago. Yesterday I ordered
> some computer glasses from them. $16 pays for the frames, lenses,
> scratch resistance and UV protection. I spent another $4.90 for anit
> reflective coating. I also decided that day to get some distance
> glasses from the their usual $19 collection, which comes with
> everything the $16 glasses came with and I did spend the extra $4.90
> for the AR coating. The way I figure it, I rather be disaapoionted
> wearing $21/$24 glasses instead of the $394 I had spent at lenses
> crafters for a single pair(glad I got my money back on those).

I got the cheapest possible lenses from my eye doc and it was $120 for
single vision, in my frames, with no coatings of any kind. The glare
is unbelievable and they appear cheaply made because there are
"splinters" on the rimless edges. I really don't like wearing them.

I ordered from optical4less.com and got new frames with UV,AR,and
scratch coat for around $40. The optics are great and the frames are
nice. There's really no comparison. These glasses would be $300+
locally.

There is risk in it because you don't really know how they are going to
look from pic online, but I could buy almost 10 pairs for the price I'd
pay locally. I feel a little guilty, because I'm not sure if the exams
are priced low in the expectation of a glasses purchase? The savings
is just too much to pass up though.

FWIW, I bought from Zenni once and the frames were pretty cheap. O4L is
much better. Zenni delivered quickly though.

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Old 04-29-2006, 03:12 PM
Dr. Leukoma
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Let's face it, we're being held to the standards created by Walmart.

DrG

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Old 04-29-2006, 03:08 PM
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Yeh, sure, but what about Costco?

DrG

 

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