perceptual issues in visualization

#8 11-14-2006, 07:04 PM

Greetings,

Those sets of trial lenses and frames..... I want one. I think that if
I played around with them for half an hour, the mystery of my
distance/astigmatism correction would be solved. (Or possibly not; but
at least I'd find out.)

Any suggestions on where to obtain? What size to get (I guess they
come in 24 and 38 mm?). Anybody on here want to sell me theirs (or
maybe loan me a subset of their lenses for a fee)? Know where best to
look for used ones?
I called the Indiana University optometry school, but they could only
refer me to various manufacturers. I thought I'd check here first for
recommendations on what to get and where to find it.

Thanks!!

cheers,
Liz D.
in Indianapolis

#7 11-08-2006, 07:33 PM

In article <1163013474.376397.130600[at]f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> ,
"otisbrown[at]pa.net" <otisbrown[at]pa.net> wrote:

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> Dear Judy,
> Accurate preception

Right.

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> of the dynamic

Right.

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> nature of the
> fundamental

Right.

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> eye is a scientific issue -- not a medical issue.

Right.

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> And that truly is an issue of "trained"

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> preception.

Right.

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> And that is the issue that is truly addressed
> by, "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions".

Have you actually read this book? I didn't think so.

--
Dan Abel
dabel[at]sonic.net
Petaluma, California, USA

#6 11-08-2006, 07:14 PM

"BD" <robert.drea[at]gmail.com> wrote in news:1163015949.367623.33840
[at]b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

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> Now *I* would call that a Freudian slip. ;-)

I think its more of a slip off the wagon.

--
Scott
Reverse name to reply

#5 11-08-2006, 06:59 PM

otisbrown[at]pa.net wrote:
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> Dear Judy,
> Accurate preception of the dynamic nature of the
> fundamental eye is a scientific issue -- not a medical issue.
> And that truly is an issue of "trained" preception.
> And that is the issue that is truly addressed
> by, "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions".

One typo is an error. Two means you don't know what word you're looking
for.

PREception = precept = rule of personal conduct.

Now *I* would call that a Freudian slip. ;-)

#4 11-08-2006, 06:17 PM

Dear Judy,

Accurate preception of the dynamic nature of the
fundamental eye is a scientific issue -- not a medical issue.

And that truly is an issue of "trained" preception.

And that is the issue that is truly addressed
by, "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions".

Best,

Otis

Dr Judy wrote:
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> ola.alaa[at]gmail.com wrote:
> > Dear Otis, and A Lieberma,
> > > thanx Otis for ur help, and thanx A Lieberma for ur advice, but i think
> > Otis' web site is useful..
> The site Otis sent you to is a summary of research about
> emmetropization. I thought you were looking for perceptual links?
> Try searching psychological research data bases, perception is more a
> psych research subject than a vision science research topic.
> Judy
> > > bye
> > > A Lieberma wrote:
> > > "otisbrown[at]pa.net" <otisbrown[at]pa.net> wrote in
> > > news:1162926525.639005.311340[at]m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com:
> > > > > > > > > Dear Ola,
> > > > > > > Here is a site that will help you visualize the effect
> > > > > Dear Ola,
> > > > > Please disregard Otis's postings. He is not in the medical profession and
> > > not in any position to give medical advise.
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > Allen

#3 11-07-2006, 11:43 PM

ola.alaa[at]gmail.com wrote:
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> Dear Otis, and A Lieberma,
> thanx Otis for ur help, and thanx A Lieberma for ur advice, but i think
> Otis' web site is useful..

The site Otis sent you to is a summary of research about
emmetropization. I thought you were looking for perceptual links?

Try searching psychological research data bases, perception is more a
psych research subject than a vision science research topic.

Judy

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> bye
> A Lieberma wrote:
> > "otisbrown[at]pa.net" <otisbrown[at]pa.net> wrote in
> > news:1162926525.639005.311340[at]m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com:
> > > > > > Dear Ola,
> > > > > Here is a site that will help you visualize the effect
> > > Dear Ola,
> > > Please disregard Otis's postings. He is not in the medical profession and
> > not in any position to give medical advise.
> > > Thanks!
> > > Allen

#2 11-07-2006, 08:39 PM

Dear Otis, and A Lieberma,

thanx Otis for ur help, and thanx A Lieberma for ur advice, but i think
Otis' web site is useful..

bye

A Lieberma wrote:
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> "otisbrown[at]pa.net" <otisbrown[at]pa.net> wrote in
> news:1162926525.639005.311340[at]m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com:
> > > Dear Ola,
> > > Here is a site that will help you visualize the effect
> Dear Ola,
> Please disregard Otis's postings. He is not in the medical profession and
> not in any position to give medical advise.
> Thanks!
> Allen

#1 11-07-2006, 06:24 PM

"otisbrown[at]pa.net" <otisbrown[at]pa.net> wrote in
news:1162926525.639005.311340[at]m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com:

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> Dear Ola,
> Here is a site that will help you visualize the effect

Dear Ola,

Please disregard Otis's postings. He is not in the medical profession and
not in any position to give medical advise.

Thanks!

Allen

11-07-2006, 06:08 PM

Dear Ola,

Here is a site that will help you visualize the effect that
a plus and minus lens have on the optical length of the
natural eye:

http://vision.berkeley.edu/wildsoet/myopiaprimer.html

And many other issues related to the natural eye's
dynamic behavior.

Enjoy,

Otis

ola.alaa[at]gmail.com wrote:
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> hi all,
> I look for sites or books that talk about "Perceptual issues in
> visualization", i need information about using visualization and
> computer graphics in the biophysics and psychophysics of human visual
> system ( like letest researches, conferences, and results about this
> field)
> i really need ur suggestions and ur help..
> thanx very much..
> Ola

#-1 11-07-2006, 03:20 PM

hi all,
I look for sites or books that talk about "Perceptual issues in
visualization", i need information about using visualization and
computer graphics in the biophysics and psychophysics of human visual
system ( like letest researches, conferences, and results about this
field)

i really need ur suggestions and ur help..

thanx very much..

Ola

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