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Old 04-30-2007, 01:41 PM
Scott Seidman
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MattBroderick[at]gmail.com wrote in news:1177727673.394582.50360
[at]u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:

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> Any advice would be great. Thanks.

Generally, if you have a problem with your lenses, you tell the dispensor
about it and they make it right. If your problems weren't big enough for
you to complain about them shortly after getting the glasses, what are you
complaining for now?

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Old 04-29-2007, 05:43 PM
Jan
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MattBroderick[at]gmail.com schreef:

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> I actually have been wearing one side higher than the other, as it was
> a natural way to reduce my discomfort - I wasn't even aware that I was
> doing it until I thought to get them adjusted. My prescription is ~5
> in each eye. I am wearing my uglier backup pair now, and have gotten
> used to how "normal" feels. Its much more comfortable, especially in
> the periphery and transitioning between looking through the lenses and
> looking up or down without the lens.

To get 2,5 prism height difference in your glasses (supposed S-/+ 5.00
dpts R and L) you have to fit the glasses with a difference in heigt of
5 mm in front of the pupils.

Jan (normally Dutch spoken)
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Old 04-29-2007, 05:42 PM
Jan
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MattBroderick[at]gmail.com schreef:

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> I actually have been wearing one side higher than the other, as it was
> a natural way to reduce my discomfort - I wasn't even aware that I was
> doing it until I thought to get them adjusted. My prescription is ~5
> in each eye. I am wearing my uglier backup pair now, and have gotten
> used to how "normal" feels. Its much more comfortable, especially in
> the periphery and transitioning between looking through the lenses and
> looking up or down without the lens.

To get 2,5 prism height difference in your glasses (supposed S-/+ 5.00
dpts R and L) you have to fit the glasses with a difference in heigt of
0,5 mm in front of the pupils.

Jan (normally Dutch spoken)
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Old 04-29-2007, 04:18 PM
Jan
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MattBroderick[at]gmail.com schreef:

- quote -

> I actually have been wearing one side higher than the other, as it was
> a natural way to reduce my discomfort - I wasn't even aware that I was
> doing it until I thought to get them adjusted. My prescription is ~5
> in each eye. I am wearing my uglier backup pair now, and have gotten
> used to how "normal" feels. Its much more comfortable, especially in
> the periphery and transitioning between looking through the lenses and
> looking up or down without the lens.

To get 2,5 prism height difference in your glasses (supposed S-5 dpts R
and L) you have to fit the glasses with a difference in heigt of 0,5 mm
in front of the pupils.

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Old 04-29-2007, 12:14 AM
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On Apr 28, 8:04 am, MattBroder...[at]gmail.com wrote:
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> Thanks for all the replies. I was not jumping on the "sue everyone and
> everything" bandwagon by posting this, only out of curiosity and
> because the technicians that informed me of this suggested it in
> passing.



It's generally not to smart to take legal advice from tecnicians.

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Old 04-28-2007, 11:56 PM
MattBroderick@gmail.com
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On Apr 28, 3:58 pm, Jan <nos...[at]nospam.nl> wrote:
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> MattBroder...[at]gmail.com schreef:
> > I have recently found out that my main pair of glasses has something
> > like a 2.5 diopter prism (I'm not sure of the correct terminology) in
> > one of the eyes, offsetting the lens centers. My Rx did not call for
> > this prism, and I have had problems with the glasses since first
> > getting them - although I thought it was due to a bad fit after about
> > a week or two. What eventually happened was that they started to
> > naturally get pushed into "misalignment" by my constant adjusting to
> > make them wearable, but I still noticed weird double vision when
> > taking them off and putting them on. However, I have been so busy away
> > at school I haven't had a chance to ask anyone about it until now -
> > thought the headaches were stress
> > I was told that there are certain legal standards that a lens maker
> > has to follow, and that my values were out of "tolerance" - almost 3mm
> > when my acceptable level is +/- 1mm. Other than asking the original
> > vision center to replace the lenses, am I entitled to or should I take
> > any legal action? Its kind of ironic that I did get into a car
> > accident two days before learning about the lenses being
> > incorrect...but I was not at fault.
> > Any advice would be great. Thanks.
> Matt, reading your story I suppose it is a a mismatch in height of the
> optical centers.
> Also reading your story I suppose your prescription is about 8 (eight)
> diopters.
> It could be possible your frame is not quite 'horizontal' placed on your
> face.
> Thats to say on the right side some what lower than it is on your left
> side ore vice versa.
> When this happens you induce a prism in in height.
> Looking at a horizontal line with one eye at a time you might see a
> 'jump' when you alternated use your right and left eye.
> You can try to 'correct 'this by trying to push up or lower down just
> one side of the frame when wearing it.
> A difference off 3mm is easily reached.
> Maybe and again maybe just a re-adjustment of your frame already fix
> this problem.
> BTW, 1 prisma in height difference is more or less acceptable for the
> brains.
> But better avoid it.
> Hope this helps,
> Jan (normally Dutch spoken)

I actually have been wearing one side higher than the other, as it was
a natural way to reduce my discomfort - I wasn't even aware that I was
doing it until I thought to get them adjusted. My prescription is ~5
in each eye. I am wearing my uglier backup pair now, and have gotten
used to how "normal" feels. Its much more comfortable, especially in
the periphery and transitioning between looking through the lenses and
looking up or down without the lens.

Thanks everyone for your clarifications.

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Old 04-28-2007, 07:58 PM
Jan
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MattBroderick[at]gmail.com schreef:
- quote -

> I have recently found out that my main pair of glasses has something
> like a 2.5 diopter prism (I'm not sure of the correct terminology) in
> one of the eyes, offsetting the lens centers. My Rx did not call for
> this prism, and I have had problems with the glasses since first
> getting them - although I thought it was due to a bad fit after about
> a week or two. What eventually happened was that they started to
> naturally get pushed into "misalignment" by my constant adjusting to
> make them wearable, but I still noticed weird double vision when
> taking them off and putting them on. However, I have been so busy away
> at school I haven't had a chance to ask anyone about it until now -
> thought the headaches were stress
> I was told that there are certain legal standards that a lens maker
> has to follow, and that my values were out of "tolerance" - almost 3mm
> when my acceptable level is +/- 1mm. Other than asking the original
> vision center to replace the lenses, am I entitled to or should I take
> any legal action? Its kind of ironic that I did get into a car
> accident two days before learning about the lenses being
> incorrect...but I was not at fault.
> Any advice would be great. Thanks.

Matt, reading your story I suppose it is a a mismatch in height of the
optical centers.
Also reading your story I suppose your prescription is about 8 (eight)
diopters.
It could be possible your frame is not quite 'horizontal' placed on your
face.
Thats to say on the right side some what lower than it is on your left
side ore vice versa.
When this happens you induce a prism in in height.
Looking at a horizontal line with one eye at a time you might see a
'jump' when you alternated use your right and left eye.
You can try to 'correct 'this by trying to push up or lower down just
one side of the frame when wearing it.
A difference off 3mm is easily reached.
Maybe and again maybe just a re-adjustment of your frame already fix
this problem.

BTW, 1 prisma in height difference is more or less acceptable for the
brains.
But better avoid it.

Hope this helps,

Jan (normally Dutch spoken)
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Old 04-28-2007, 06:49 PM
michael toulch
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On Apr 27, 10:34 pm, MattBroder...[at]gmail.com wrote:
- quote -

> I have recently found out that my main pair of glasses has something
> like a 2.5 diopter prism (I'm not sure of the correct terminology) in
> one of the eyes, offsetting the lens centers. My Rx did not call for
> this prism, and I have had problems with the glasses since first
> getting them - although I thought it was due to a bad fit after about
> a week or two. What eventually happened was that they started to
> naturally get pushed into "misalignment" by my constant adjusting to
> make them wearable, but I still noticed weird double vision when
> taking them off and putting them on. However, I have been so busy away
> at school I haven't had a chance to ask anyone about it until now -
> thought the headaches were stress
> I was told that there are certain legal standards that a lens maker
> has to follow, and that my values were out of "tolerance" - almost 3mm
> when my acceptable level is +/- 1mm. Other than asking the original
> vision center to replace the lenses, am I entitled to or should I take
> any legal action? Its kind of ironic that I did get into a car
> accident two days before learning about the lenses being
> incorrect...but I was not at fault.
> Any advice would be great. Thanks.

sounds like you were more inconvenienced than harmed.
I would expect the optician to accommodate you and do his/her best to
keep you as a client.

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Old 04-28-2007, 04:43 PM
William Stacy, O.D.
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MattBroderick[at]gmail.com wrote:

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> Thanks for all the replies. I was not jumping on the "sue everyone and
> everything" bandwagon by posting this, only out of curiosity and
> because the technicians that informed me of this suggested it in
> passing.

While I generally agree with not suing on this case, I must say that
whether or not you could get a judgement would depend on the extent of
damages to you. The others apparently feel that your symptoms that
certainly were caused by the prism do not constitute harm. Apparently
they haven't heard of the pain and suffering awards that have been made.
Again, probably not worth the effort in this case, but surely possible.

w.stacy, o.d.
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Old 04-28-2007, 12:04 PM
MattBroderick@gmail.com
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On Apr 27, 10:50 pm, "Ms.Brainy" <mikabra...[at]gmail.com> wrote:
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> For a legal action you need to have damages. Do you have any? I
> don't think so. Go back to the vision center and have them replace
> the lens(es), I am sure they'll cooperate. Stay away from courts and
> lawyers unless you have no other remedial choice -- this is the best
> advice I can give you.
> On Apr 27, 7:34 pm, MattBroder...[at]gmail.com wrote:
> > I have recently found out that my main pair of glasses has something
> > like a 2.5 diopter prism (I'm not sure of the correct terminology) in
> > one of the eyes, offsetting the lens centers. My Rx did not call for
> > this prism, and I have had problems with the glasses since first
> > getting them - although I thought it was due to a bad fit after about
> > a week or two. What eventually happened was that they started to
> > naturally get pushed into "misalignment" by my constant adjusting to
> > make them wearable, but I still noticed weird double vision when
> > taking them off and putting them on. However, I have been so busy away
> > at school I haven't had a chance to ask anyone about it until now -
> > thought the headaches were stress
> > I was told that there are certain legal standards that a lens maker
> > has to follow, and that my values were out of "tolerance" - almost 3mm
> > when my acceptable level is +/- 1mm. Other than asking the original
> > vision center to replace the lenses, am I entitled to or should I take
> > any legal action? Its kind of ironic that I did get into a car
> > accident two days before learning about the lenses being
> > incorrect...but I was not at fault.
> > Any advice would be great. Thanks.

Thanks for all the replies. I was not jumping on the "sue everyone and
everything" bandwagon by posting this, only out of curiosity and
because the technicians that informed me of this suggested it in
passing.

 

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