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Old 07-05-2007, 01:37 AM
Jane
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My retinal surgeon made a big effort to convince me that refusing
sedation would be a major mistake. He even claimed that it would be
"the worst day of my life." But I had read that outside the US
sedation was not used routinely for vitrectomies, and I really wanted
to experience the operating room atmosphere. The residual high from
the propofol (and the fact that the local anesthesia never reached my
optic nerve so I could watch the surgery being performed) made for a
thrilling experience. I had no problem lying perfectly still and
watching the show. In retrospect, I suspect that my retinal surgeon
was just more comfortable operating on a sedated patient. I really
appreciate his flexibility in letting me skip the IV Versed/
Fentanyl.


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Old 07-03-2007, 12:30 AM
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Jane wrote:

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> Dan, I was also awake during my vitrectomy (my choice), although they
> used propofol IV to administer the retrobulbar block (local
> anesthesia). The propofol left me in a state of elation, which lasted
> for most of the vitrectomy, and the retrobulbar block eliminated all
> sensation in my eye (although I could see--and was able to watch the
> surgery). By contrast, the topical drops for cataract surgery
> eliminated pain but I could still feel pressure. And without the
> residual high from the propofol, the cataract surgery was much less
> pleasant.

Yes, all my retinal surgeries (starting with a buckle, followed by 5
vitrectomies, PVR "peels", and silicone injections & changes, were under
conscious sedation. It's pretty interesting to watch the surgery from
the "inside", and be able to chat with the surgeons. During the latest,
I mentioned I was beginning to feel some discomfort as he worked, so
they added more block; up until then, I had always been "tuned out" on
Fentanyl for that, and I could only imagine what it would feel like! Not
nearly as bad as the in-office gas injection I underwent...

Dave
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Old 07-01-2007, 07:23 PM
Jane
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I had floaters after cataract surgery and YAG laser. They disappeared
permanently after a week or two.

On Jun 29, 1:16 am, "Ms.Brainy" <mikabra...[at]gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Jun 28, 10:48 pm, "Ms.Brainy" <mikabra...[at]gmail.com> wrote On Jun 27, 1:50 pm, Neil Brooks <neil0...[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > Keep us posted on the progress!
> Another note: Finally I too have some floaters, though very few and
> only occassionally. I believe they have been there all along but due
> to my poor vision I couldn't even see them...


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Old 06-30-2007, 03:07 PM
Jane
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I only had the topical anesthetic eye drops, which was fine for my
first cat surgery because everything went well. Unfortunately, during
the surgery on my second eye, the IOL got twisted and became stuck in
the insertion device. While the surgeon struggled to free it, I
struggled to lie still and not have a panic attack. The AcrySof IQ
lens had been special ordered for me, and I was terrified that it
would rip, and they would have to insert some other (leftover) lens
that was available in my power (14 D). The surgeon ultimately did
free the lens without ripping it, although I needed a stitch. When I
saw him the next day, it was apparent that he had had no idea how
anxious I had become on the operating table.

Dan, I was also awake during my vitrectomy (my choice), although they
used propofol IV to administer the retrobulbar block (local
anesthesia). The propofol left me in a state of elation, which lasted
for most of the vitrectomy, and the retrobulbar block eliminated all
sensation in my eye (although I could see--and was able to watch the
surgery). By contrast, the topical drops for cataract surgery
eliminated pain but I could still feel pressure. And without the
residual high from the propofol, the cataract surgery was much less
pleasant.

I'm really curious whether others can sense a difference in their
vision with an implant vs. their natural lens (without
cataract).

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Old 06-30-2007, 04:34 AM
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In article <1183174306.616137.84640[at]u2g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> ,
Jane <clinton6699[at]hotmail.com> wrote:

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> I'm not brave, just curious. I had read so much about cataract
> surgery that I didn't want to miss anything by being sedated.

I believe that there are medical terms to describe nothing, local and
knocked out. Did they give you enough "stuff" so that you were relaxed
during the surgery? My last surgery (retinal detachment repair and
vitrectomy, two hours), went fine, even though I was awake. My previous
eye surgery (cataract, a few minutes) was miserable. The doctor didn't
believe in heavy whatever it's called, so I was a nervous wreck.
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Old 06-30-2007, 03:31 AM
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I'm not brave, just curious. I had read so much about cataract
surgery that I didn't want to miss anything by being sedated. But I
was very anxious about doing a clear lens exchange on my "good" eye.
(My situation was different than yours, Ms. Brainy, and I can
appreciate your reluctance to risk a second surgery.) I wasn't
worried about loss of accomodation, since I already needed a +2.00 ADD
for reading. My concerns related to what my quality of vision would be
with an implant. I was happy to discover that my AcrySof IQ seems to
be every bit as good as my natural lens.


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Old 06-29-2007, 06:16 AM
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On Jun 28, 10:48 pm, "Ms.Brainy" <mikabra...[at]gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Jun 27, 1:50 pm, Neil Brooks <neil0...[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > Keep us posted on the progress!
Another note: Finally I too have some floaters, though very few and
only occassionally. I believe they have been there all along but due
to my poor vision I couldn't even see them...

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Old 06-29-2007, 06:06 AM
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On Jun 27, 5:33 pm, Jane <clinton6...[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
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> I think you will be pleased with your AcrySof IQ. It's Alcon's
> aspheric IOL, the type of lens that Dr. Stacy recommended to you on
> this forum.

I am very grateful for all the good advice I got on s.m.v. from
William and others, including you, Jane.

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> I really don't understand why so
> many people suggest that you should delay cataract surgery until it's
> really needed so that the drawbacks of having IOLs are easier
> tolerate. (What drawbacks?)

First, there are risks involved, and it's a matter of weighing the
risks against the potential gains. For that reason I have decided not
to touch my good eye. Then you lose accommodation, and it's certainly
a loss. In addition, some people (like me) would do anything to avoid
surgery, as the thought of it is sufficient to send chills through my
spine. WE, the chicken crowd, will go to surgery only when it;s
absolutely necessary. It may be hard for you to understand, but this
is the way we are...
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> My surgical experience was a lot easier than yours. I opted to skip
> the sedation and had topical anesthesia only. I didn't have any pain
> and I didn't need a bandage or patch.

You are very brave, Jane, and I wish I could be like you... but I am
not.

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Old 06-29-2007, 05:48 AM
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On Jun 27, 1:50 pm, Neil Brooks <neil0...[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > Other than itching ... how would you say it went ...

I was sedated and know nothing... but the doc told me that I actually
talked to him during the procedure. Could it be? I don't recall a
thing! What did I say? What secrets did I reveal? Did the real
nasty me come out and now the truth can no longer be hidden? All he
said was that I had been cooperative and didn't move... I probably
will never know.
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> Sorry about the itching. Can they give you anything (Benadryl OTC) if
> it hasn't stopped?

I believe the itching was caused by the adhesive tape with which the
bandage and the shield are glued to the face. I took Benadryl on my
own (after obtaining permission), but it didn't help much. Anyway,
the itch completely disappeared with the removal of the bandage.
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> Did you/didn't you go with the topical anesthesia PLUS the sedative??

Yes, a couple of drops into the eye, no needles! The incision was
2.8mm, with no stitches -- all according to the "wish list" that I had
handed to him at my first visit.

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> > > Keep us posted on the progress!

I still have some corneal swelling that is healing well, and my vision
IS improving. I can see now with the operated eye the individual
leaves on the trees outside, and this is exciting! I can't read
normal print [no accommocation :-( ], but I could see the time (in red
light) on my alarm clock. Until now all lights were the glaring 4th
of July fireworks for me, but now I will have only one 4th next
week...

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> I'm grateful that they're aiming as high as they are, though I know
> 20/20 would be much, much better. I hope the lens settles well,
> orients itself comfortably to its new home, and gives you crisp clear
> vision.
> Although, technically, you're now "on the threshold of myopia."
> Have you read about "plus lens therapy?"

Yeah, where is Otis when I need him???
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> > People have told me that a cat surgery is a piece of cake compared to
> > what I have been through. Well, I am still waiting for the
> > cake... :-) My next followup is next Tuesday.
> Devil's food okay?

I am of the chocolate persuation.
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> Good luck on Tuesday :-)

Thanks!

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Old 06-28-2007, 10:55 AM
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On Jun 28, 2:11 am, "Churie." <Sureshvatul...[at]gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Jun 28, 5:47 am, "Mike Tyner" <mty...[at]mindspring.com> wrote "Jane" <clinton6...[at]hotmail.com> wrote
> Hi,
> This poster will be useful I presume.
> WHAT IS CATARACT?
> Cataract is an opacity in the lens of the eye.In a camera, an object
> is focussed onto the film by a lens. Similarly, an object seen by the
> eye is focussed onto the retina by the it's lens. When the lens of our
> eye gets opaque, it is called CATARACT. The normal lens allows light
> to reach the retina. When it becomes opaque and does not allow light
> to reach the retina, we are unable to see clearly.
> To understand cataract better, imagine photographing through a camera
> with grease smeared onto it's lens. In such a case, the image formed
> is very hazy and blurred. Similar to grease smearing onto the lens of
> a camera, if the lens of the eye gets opaque, the image formed on the
> retina will be blurred and one will not see clearly.
> HISTORY OF CATARACT SURGERY
> The history of cataract dates back to 3000 years. The earliest
> cataract operation was performed by the famous surgeon of ancient
> India, SUSRUTA, a disciple of Danavantri. Even in that ancient era,
> Susruta described Cataract as an opacity of the lens. He had given an
> admirable account of the technique of its treatment by couching which
> he successfully practiced. In this operation he displaced the opaque
> cataractous lens away from the centre of the eye to another part of
> the eye. Today modern medical advances have made cataract surgery one
> of the most successful forms of surgery. New surgical techniques and
> Intraocular lenses can restore excellent vision in 97% of all cases.
> In the 1960's Dr.Charles Kelman from USA started a technique called
> Phacoemulsification in which cataracts were removed through a 3 mm
> incision, compared to a 12 mm incision in which the whole cataract was
> removed in toto. Then in 1998, Dr.Amar Agarwal from India started a
> technique called PHAKONIT in which cataracts were removed through a
> 1.0 mm opening. In the year 2001 a special lens was made which went
> through this small opening of 1 to 1.5 mm. This was called the
> Rollable Intraocular lens.
> WHY DOES CATARACT FORM?
> The causes of the formation of cataract are not fully known. It is
> basically an aging phenomenon. Just as our hair gets grey, so also
> does the lens of our eye get opaque. Next to old age come other
> factors like deficiency of food like proteins and vitamins, some toxic
> drugs, general diseases like diabetes, infections and injuries.
> Sometimes German measles in pregnant mothers causes cataract in the
> child.
> TIPS BENEFICIAL TO DELAY THE ONSET OF CATARACT
> 1]Take good and nourishing diet rich in proteins and vitamins. Food
> such as liver, eggs, milk products, carrots, cabbages and yeast are
> good.
> 2]Protect your eyes from excessive exposure to sunrays, X-rays,
> intense heat and injuries.
> 3]Diseases such as Diabetes and syphillis should be treated early
> and effectively.
> TREATMENT OF CATARACT
> THERE IS NO MEDICAL TREATMENT FOR CATARACT. THE ONLY TREATMENT IS
> SURGERY. The important question is when should one get operated for
> cataract. This depends on the occupation of the patient. If the
> patient is a pilot, he should be operated earlier for slight
> deterioration of vision will affect his work, whereas if the patient
> is a housewife, she can delay surgery for some time. When a person has
> a cataract and the decision is made to operate, then the diseased lens
> is removed and replaced by an artificial lens.
> ALTERNATIVES OF THE NATURAL LENS
> Once the cataract [diseased lens] is removed, there is no focussing
> ability of the eye as there is no lens in the eye. So one has to use
> an artificial lens to get the object focussed onto the retina. This
> can be either in the form of a spectacle, contact lens or an
> Intraocular lens.
> 1]Spectacles can be used but these are very heavy and not comfortable.
> Further, if one removes these glasses the person is blind. Other
> disadvantages of these glasses is that everything is magnified and the
> side view is very poor.
> 2]The second alternative is to use a Contact lens. This is an
> artificial lens placed on the eye. The disadvantage as with spectacles
> is that if we remove it the person is blind as there is no focussing
> ability. Another problem with contact lenses is that they have to be
> put on in the morning and removed at night which is difficult for an
> old person.
> 3]So, the best method is to give the patient an INTRAOCULAR LENS. This
> is an artificial lens that is placed in the eye at the time of
> surgery. It will remain in place till the end of life. By this all the
> problems of spectacles or contact lenses is removed. This lens does
> not irritate the eye.
> MANUAL CATARACT EXTRACTION TECHNIQUE
> The manual or the old technique for cataract removal use a 12 mm
> incision (cut) to remove the cataract. One technique called the
> INTRACAPSULAR CATARACT EXTRACTION has an incision of 12 mm. In this
> the entire cataract is removed with the capsule of the lens. The
> disadvantage of this technique is that the artificial lens called the
> Intraocular lens (IOL) is placed in the capsular bag with the capsule
> of the lens acting as a support for the lens. As the capsule is not
> present the IOL cannot be placed in the capsular bag position.
> Another manual technique is called the EXTRACAPSULAR CATARACT
> EXTRACTION TECHNIQUE. In this the incision is about 10 mm. In this the
> cataract is removed but the capsule of the lens is left behind. The
> advantage of this technique is that the artificial lens called the
> Intraocular lens (IOL) is placed in the capsular bag with the capsule
> of the lens acting as a support for the lens.
> The disadvantage of this technique is that the incision is quite large
> of about 10 mm which creates scarring in the eye. This means half the
> eye is cut open and then an IOL is inserted inside the eye. The IOL is
> about 6 mm and so easily goes inside the eye. Sutures are then placed
> and the patient admitted. The patient takes rest for 45 days and after
> that suitable glasses are prescribed. The patient is given spectacles
> for fine tuning after 45 days.
> PHACOEMULSIFICATION
> Dr.Charles Kelman from USA started a technique called
> phacoemulsification in the 60's to remove cataract through a 3 mm
> opening. Since then various new modalities have developed which have
> made this technique more refined. The machine for removing the
> cataracts is called a Phacoemulsifier machine which cuts the cataract
> into small pieces and removes them by aspiration.
> FOLDABLE INTRA-OCULAR LENSES
> Normally, the lenses used are rigid and cannot be folded. The problem
> by this is that one has to make a large cut or incision in the eye to
> implant these lenses. Today, the latest development in Intraocular
> lenses is the FOLDABLE intraocular lens. These are special lenses
> which can be folded. Once they are folded they are placed in a special
> cartridge and then the cartridge is place in a special injector. The
> injector is passed into the eye and the lens also gradually passed
> into the eye. The lens unfolds in the eye. These lenses can be passed
> into the eye through a very small cut. Thus this foldable Intraocular
> lens helps make the incision very small.
> PHAKONIT (Cataract surgery through a sub 1 mm incision)
> One of the biggest breakthroughs in cataract removal has come from
> India by a technique called PHAKONIT. In this the incision is brought
> down from a 3 mm incision to a 1 mm incision.
> The first step is to make the incision. Then the instruments for
> Phakonit are passed into the eye and the cataract cut into small
> pieces by Phakonit and finally the whole cataract removed.
> The problem with this technique was to find an IOL which would pass
> through such a small incision. Then on October 2nd 2001 the first case
> of a Phakonit Rollable IOL was done.
> The lens used was a special lens from USA. This was the first Rollable
> IOL which was implanted after a Phakonit procedure and was a rolled
> IOL.
> The advantage of this lens is that it is a very thin lens and when
> placed in water becomes pliable and can then be rolled and inserted
> into the eye. Inside the eye the lens opens gradually. The patient can
> come to the hospital and go home immediately. The advantages are that
> the 1 mm barrier is broken and the incision now has become so small.
> MICRO-PHAKONIT
> (Cataract Removed Through A 0.7 Mm Needle)
> On May 21st 2005, a new technique "MICRO PHAKONIT" has been introduced
> by Dr.Agarwal's Eye Hospital, Chennai whereby cataracts were removed
> with a specially designed needle of 0.7 mm. The surgery was carried
> out by Dr.Amar Agarwal, Director of Dr.Agarwal's eye hospital,
> Chennai, India. The instruments were designed by him and manufactured
> in the United States of America.
> Image will come
> As the incision now becomes smaller than the original phakonit
> technique started in 1998, the technique has been termed Micro-
> Phakonit. This technique is absolutely painless and the patient does
> not require any injection at all. Since the incision is below 1 mm the
> patient has no injection, no stitches and no pad. The patient walks
> inside the hospital and goes back immediately.
> OUT-PATIENT CATARACT SURGERY
> Today, we are able to operate patients with cataract and remove their
> diseased lenses and replace it with an artificial lens called an
> Intraocular lens as an out-patient procedure. The patients are not at
> all admitted in the hospital. The patient comes in the morning for
> surgery and after the operation can go home. The patients can go back
> to their work within a couple of days as the healing is very quick
> because of the ultrasmall incision.
> WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF GOOD SIGHT AFTER OPERATION?
> With the advancement of cataract surgery and modern skills, the
> success of cataract surgery is between 97-99%. Complications like
> infection and haemorrhage can occur but are very rare. One should
> remember that if the retina or nerve of the eye are damaged then even
> after a good cataract operation the person will not see.
> Putting large lenses in large incisions is bucking the tide of
> history. Small incisions offer the best chance for most-rapid, stable
> visual rehabilitation of the cataract patient at the least cost,
> including time of impaired vision following surgery, the need for
> follow up care, the attendance of relatives to take care of them to
> the doctor and the like.
> SUMMARY
> The advantages of performing Phakonit cataract surgery due to the very
> small size of the cut made in the eye is that -
> 1.The patients are not admitted in the hospital
> 2.The patients come for the surgery and go back immediately after a
> few hours in the hospital
> 3.There are no stitches used
> 4.The patient gets back to his or her normal routine the next day and
> can go to office, have a head bath or do the normal housework like
> cooking etc.
> Take care and stay in touch.

nice summary. i don't know much about the "MICRO PHAKONIT"
procedure. sounds like i will be hearing more about it. thanks for
adding something positive to this NG.

 

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