> On Jul 25, 6:08 pm, jay1000 <jfschonSpamgu...[at]cox.net> wrote:
> > On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 04:05:39 -0000, p.clar...[at]gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Jul 24, 11:20 pm, jay1000 <jfschonSpamgu...[at]cox.net> wrote:
> > > > I am on Restasis, lubricants and heat for dry eye, but my eyes are
> > > > still fairly irritated. I tried some Opcon A in addition to the
> > > > Restasis and lubricants and it really helps minimize the irritation. I
> > > > used it about an hour after taking Restasis.
> > > > > Anyone know if there is a problem with taking Opcon A with all the
> > > > other dry eye meds? Twice a day ought to be enough.
> > > > conventional wisdom is that Opcon A is contraindicated in dry eye
> > > patients.
> > > > Opcon A contains a vasoconstrictor and an antihistamine (which has
> > > anticholinergic side effects). Both of those agents can reduce tear
> > > secretion in the eye. In fact it's use is for people suffering from
> > > allergic symptoms which includes watery weeping eyes-- it is supposed
> > > to dry-up the tearing and reduce itching (another allergic symptom).
> > > > Are you suffering from eye irritation after applying Restasis? If so,
> > > then perhaps the Opcon A reduces your inflammatory response to the
> > > Restasis making you feel more comfortable despite the fact that tear
> > > production has not been increased (and perhaps even been decreased).
> > > > This is all conjecture on my part, and I am unaware of any data on the
> > > topic.
> > > THANK YOU. I suspected that there might be a problem, but was unable
> > to locate anything with a warning about the use of Opcon A when there
> > is a dry eye diagnosis. Fortunately I took it only once.
> > > My eye doctor gave me a bunch of different lubricants to try out. The
> > best of the lot, for me, are Soothe, Optive, and TheraTears. I don't
> > think any of them contain the preservative benzalkonium chloride.
> > Actually, the inactive ingredients in Restasis are fairly
> > soothing...have to look for an eye drop with castor oil, glycerin and
> > polysorbate.
> Theratears is good. Also consider Refresh Plus and Systane.

> On Jul 25, 4:46 am, Kisame Hoshigaki
> <absolutelyinvinci...[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Neil,
> > I was wondering when you said about ocular preservatives. Please could
> > you explain a little about them?
> No. Based on your lengthy posting history here--under numerous
> aliases--you're really an obnoxious asshole, so ... go find out for
> yourself.
> Or don't.
> Cheers.

> THANK YOU. I suspected that there might be a problem, but was unable
> to locate anything with a warning about the use of Opcon A when there
> is a dry eye diagnosis. Fortunately I took it only once.

> Actually, the inactive ingredients in Restasis are fairly
> soothing...have to look for an eye drop with castor oil, glycerin and
> polysorbate.

> On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 04:05:39 -0000, p.clar...[at]gmail.com wrote:
> > On Jul 24, 11:20 pm, jay1000 <jfschonSpamgu...[at]cox.net> wrote:
> > > I am on Restasis, lubricants and heat for dry eye, but my eyes are
> > > still fairly irritated. I tried some Opcon A in addition to the
> > > Restasis and lubricants and it really helps minimize the irritation. I
> > > used it about an hour after taking Restasis.
> > > Anyone know if there is a problem with taking Opcon A with all the
> > > other dry eye meds? Twice a day ought to be enough.
> > conventional wisdom is that Opcon A is contraindicated in dry eye
> > patients.
> > Opcon A contains a vasoconstrictor and an antihistamine (which has
> > anticholinergic side effects). Both of those agents can reduce tear
> > secretion in the eye. In fact it's use is for people suffering from
> > allergic symptoms which includes watery weeping eyes-- it is supposed
> > to dry-up the tearing and reduce itching (another allergic symptom).
> > Are you suffering from eye irritation after applying Restasis? If so,
> > then perhaps the Opcon A reduces your inflammatory response to the
> > Restasis making you feel more comfortable despite the fact that tear
> > production has not been increased (and perhaps even been decreased).
> > This is all conjecture on my part, and I am unaware of any data on the
> > topic.
> THANK YOU. I suspected that there might be a problem, but was unable
> to locate anything with a warning about the use of Opcon A when there
> is a dry eye diagnosis. Fortunately I took it only once.
> My eye doctor gave me a bunch of different lubricants to try out. The
> best of the lot, for me, are Soothe, Optive, and TheraTears. I don't
> think any of them contain the preservative benzalkonium chloride.
> Actually, the inactive ingredients in Restasis are fairly
> soothing...have to look for an eye drop with castor oil, glycerin and
> polysorbate.

> On Jul 24, 11:20 pm, jay1000 <jfschonSpamgu...[at]cox.net> wrote:
> > I am on Restasis, lubricants and heat for dry eye, but my eyes are
> > still fairly irritated. I tried some Opcon A in addition to the
> > Restasis and lubricants and it really helps minimize the irritation. I
> > used it about an hour after taking Restasis.
> > > Anyone know if there is a problem with taking Opcon A with all the
> > other dry eye meds? Twice a day ought to be enough.
> conventional wisdom is that Opcon A is contraindicated in dry eye
> patients.
> Opcon A contains a vasoconstrictor and an antihistamine (which has
> anticholinergic side effects). Both of those agents can reduce tear
> secretion in the eye. In fact it's use is for people suffering from
> allergic symptoms which includes watery weeping eyes-- it is supposed
> to dry-up the tearing and reduce itching (another allergic symptom).
> Are you suffering from eye irritation after applying Restasis? If so,
> then perhaps the Opcon A reduces your inflammatory response to the
> Restasis making you feel more comfortable despite the fact that tear
> production has not been increased (and perhaps even been decreased).
> This is all conjecture on my part, and I am unaware of any data on the
> topic.

> Hi Neil,
> I was wondering when you said about ocular preservatives. Please could
> you explain a little about them?

> What sort of substances are they?
> Where could I find them or buy them?
> And also, what is meant by 'Virtual Drano'?
> TIA

> On Jul 24, 11:20 pm, jay1000 <jfschonSpamgu...[at]cox.net> wrote:
> > I am on Restasis, lubricants and heat for dry eye, but my eyes are
> > still fairly irritated. I tried some Opcon A in addition to the
> > Restasis and lubricants and it really helps minimize the irritation. I
> > used it about an hour after taking Restasis.
> > > Anyone know if there is a problem with taking Opcon A with all the
> > other dry eye meds? Twice a day ought to be enough.
> conventional wisdom is that Opcon A is contraindicated in dry eye
> patients.
> Opcon A contains a vasoconstrictor and an antihistamine (which has
> anticholinergic side effects).

> Both of those agents can reduce tear
> secretion in the eye. In fact it's use is for people suffering from
> allergic symptoms which includes watery weeping eyes-- it is supposed
> to dry-up the tearing and reduce itching (another allergic symptom).
> Are you suffering from eye irritation after applying Restasis? If so,
> then perhaps the Opcon A reduces your inflammatory response to the
> Restasis making you feel more comfortable despite the fact that tear
> production has not been increased (and perhaps even been decreased).
> This is all conjecture on my part, and I am unaware of any data on the
> topic.

> I am on Restasis, lubricants and heat for dry eye, but my eyes are
> still fairly irritated. I tried some Opcon A in addition to the
> Restasis and lubricants and it really helps minimize the irritation. I
> used it about an hour after taking Restasis.
> Anyone know if there is a problem with taking Opcon A with all the
> other dry eye meds? Twice a day ought to be enough.