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Old 09-04-2007, 07:10 AM
John H.
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No, melanin is increased, melatonin is decreased. Melanin is the pigment.
"The Real Bev" <bashley101+usenet[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
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> p.clarkii[at]gmail.com wrote:
> > On Aug 30, 4:07 pm, "Ms.Brainy" <mikabra...[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > The researches hypothesized not on astrology, but on a more sound
> > > theory: "We know that sunlight affects the pineal gland and we have
> > > indications that melatonin, through other compounds, is involved in
> > > regulating eye length," says Belkin. "More sun equals less melatonin,
> > > equals a longer eye which is short sighted."
> > > i guess sunning isn't such a good therapy. Who'd a thunk it?
> Huh? The more sunlight you experience the MORE melatonin you develop.
> There's a reason that Africans are dark and Norwegians are light. Let's
> think about this for a while...
> So if Belkin is right in spite of his wrongness, how much melatonin (not
all
> that expensive at Costco) do I have to take to reduce my +3 and +5
eyeballs
> to perfect planosity? Should I undercorrect the +5 or overcorrect the
+3?
> Decisions decisions decisions...
> --
> Cheers,
> Bev
> ================================================== ===
> It's 95% of the lawyers making the other 5% look bad.


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Old 09-03-2007, 08:19 AM
John H.
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Additionally, Multiple Sclerosis has a similiar linkage. In relation to MS
and Schizophrenia I would be looking for an immunological impact,
particularly as reduced vitamin D can shift the immune balance. The MS -
lack of sunlight in teenage years is countered by high fish diet, that is,
high vit D and omega 3, both of which tend to reduce inflammation and MS is
regarded as a TH 1 inflammatory autoimmune condition. The literature also
points to other seasonal variations, which could relate to pathogen
exposure, UV light, diet, allergens ... . It may even relate to how the
season of birth "sets" the circadian rhythms, which impact on an enormous
variety of processes throughout the body.

The linkage with myopia and intelligence is interesting as there is also a
linkage with schizophrenia and intelligence, more particularly in relation
to the first degree relatives of schizophrenics. So if you're a high myope
and schizophrenic perhaps ye carries very valuable genes ... .


"Dr. Leukoma" <drg[at]leukoma.com> wrote in message
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> On Aug 30, 8:53 pm, Jane <clinton6...[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Aug 30, 1:46 pm, "Ms.Brainy" <mikabra...[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Birth Month And Short-Sightedness Linked By Tel-Aviv University
> > > Researchers:
> > > > http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/80667.php
> > > > [I am speechless!]
> > > Ms. Brainy, it might not be quite as crazy as it sounds. There's also
> > evidence that babies born during the late winter and early spring have
> > a significantly greater chance of developing schizophrenia during
> > their lifetime. This finding applies both north and south of the
> > equator, although the months of winter and early spring are
> > different. It's hypothesized that a virus during the second trimester
> > of pregnancy may be to blame.
> > > But the research you sited is another correlational study, so maybe we
> > should withhold judgment for the time being.
> ..and besides, the authors are talking about severe myopia, not all
> myopia.


  #14  
Old 09-01-2007, 06:30 AM
andrewedwardjudd@hotmail.com
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On Sep 1, 11:20 am, p.clar...[at]gmail.com wrote:
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> On Aug 31, 2:22 am, andrewedwardj...[at]hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Aug 31, 8:32 am, Zetsu <absolutelyinvinci...[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Babies born in June and July had a 24% greater chance
> > > hav u considered weather conditions? coz it is hotter in june and july
> > > than any of the other months so it might jus b bcoz of the weather...
> > > i mean like the babies feel uncomfortable in the hot weather were it
> > > is so dry and different from the normal condition in the womb of the
> > > mother.... u kno wat i mean
> > > and discomfort of the body is a major factor of strain in the mind, so
> > > that means that the babies get more strain in the mind which leads 2
> > > the worse myopia. in science simple explanations r alwayz the best,
> > > remember...
> > Actually Zetsu has a point here.
> > Maybe even in womb foetal distress could be relevant as the summer
> > season approaches, but the hotest month is August and in the middle
> > east this would probably extend into September.
> > Perhaps a child born in early summer gets pivotal experiences in
> > intense unpleasant heat that in some manner stress it?
> what does any of this wild speculation have to do with (S)cience or
> (M)edicine?
> Nothing.
> you should go off to some other forum where proof and facts are not
> relevant or important.- Hide quoted text -

Science is open minded before it is narrow minded.

"Proof and facts" are often founded on poor science and narrow minded
opinions.

People tend to ridicule what they cannot believe.

Science gets there in the end.

A.

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Old 08-31-2007, 11:20 PM
p.clarkii@gmail.com
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On Aug 31, 2:22 am, andrewedwardj...[at]hotmail.com wrote:
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> On Aug 31, 8:32 am, Zetsu <absolutelyinvinci...[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > Babies born in June and July had a 24% greater chance
> > hav u considered weather conditions? coz it is hotter in june and july
> > than any of the other months so it might jus b bcoz of the weather...
> > i mean like the babies feel uncomfortable in the hot weather were it
> > is so dry and different from the normal condition in the womb of the
> > mother.... u kno wat i mean
> > and discomfort of the body is a major factor of strain in the mind, so
> > that means that the babies get more strain in the mind which leads 2
> > the worse myopia. in science simple explanations r alwayz the best,
> > remember...
> Actually Zetsu has a point here.
> Maybe even in womb foetal distress could be relevant as the summer
> season approaches, but the hotest month is August and in the middle
> east this would probably extend into September.
> Perhaps a child born in early summer gets pivotal experiences in
> intense unpleasant heat that in some manner stress it?

what does any of this wild speculation have to do with (S)cience or
(M)edicine?
Nothing.

you should go off to some other forum where proof and facts are not
relevant or important.

  #12  
Old 08-31-2007, 06:22 AM
andrewedwardjudd@hotmail.com
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On Aug 31, 8:32 am, Zetsu <absolutelyinvinci...[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > Babies born in June and July had a 24% greater chance
> hav u considered weather conditions? coz it is hotter in june and july
> than any of the other months so it might jus b bcoz of the weather...
> i mean like the babies feel uncomfortable in the hot weather were it
> is so dry and different from the normal condition in the womb of the
> mother.... u kno wat i mean
> and discomfort of the body is a major factor of strain in the mind, so
> that means that the babies get more strain in the mind which leads 2
> the worse myopia. in science simple explanations r alwayz the best,
> remember...

Actually Zetsu has a point here.

Maybe even in womb foetal distress could be relevant as the summer
season approaches, but the hotest month is August and in the middle
east this would probably extend into September.

Perhaps a child born in early summer gets pivotal experiences in
intense unpleasant heat that in some manner stress it?

  #11  
Old 08-31-2007, 06:18 AM
andrewedwardjudd@hotmail.com
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On Aug 31, 8:07 am, "Ms.Brainy" <mikabra...[at]gmail.com> wrote:

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> > Right from the darkness of the womb they are exposed to
cruelly unbearable lights at a very crucial moment of their lives.

And not just that.

Prematurity is associated with myopia.

As is being first born. First children are often the experimental
child till parents figure out what to do. They can also be spoilt and
over prtoected which then leads later to anxious behaviours when the
real world intrudes on the an unrealistic family environment.

This suggests quite a strong possibility of some factor influencing
the baby that in turn leads to myopia.

For decades it has been argued by the behaviourists that insecurities
of the kind brought about by difficult early experiences are a major
factor in myopic development. If for no other reason it could lead
to a withdrawal towards "bookish" or intellectual behaviours where
distance place is avoided.

A.

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Old 08-31-2007, 05:49 AM
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p.clarkii[at]gmail.com wrote:

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> On Aug 30, 4:07 pm, "Ms.Brainy" <mikabra...[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> > > The researches hypothesized not on astrology, but on a more sound
> > theory: "We know that sunlight affects the pineal gland and we have
> > indications that melatonin, through other compounds, is involved in
> > regulating eye length," says Belkin. "More sun equals less melatonin,
> > equals a longer eye which is short sighted."
> i guess sunning isn't such a good therapy. Who'd a thunk it?

Huh? The more sunlight you experience the MORE melatonin you develop.
There's a reason that Africans are dark and Norwegians are light. Let's
think about this for a while...

So if Belkin is right in spite of his wrongness, how much melatonin (not all
that expensive at Costco) do I have to take to reduce my +3 and +5 eyeballs
to perfect planosity? Should I undercorrect the +5 or overcorrect the +3?
Decisions decisions decisions...

--
Cheers,
Bev
================================================== ===
It's 95% of the lawyers making the other 5% look bad.
  #9  
Old 08-31-2007, 05:05 AM
Ms.Brainy
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On Aug 30, 9:44 pm, p.clar...[at]gmail.com wrote:
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> On Aug 30, 4:07 pm, "Ms.Brainy" <mikabra...[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> > The researches hypothesized not on astrology, but on a more sound
> > theory: "We know that sunlight affects the pineal gland and we have
> > indications that melatonin, through other compounds, is involved in
> > regulating eye length," says Belkin. "More sun equals less melatonin,
> > equals a longer eye which is short sighted."
> i guess sunning isn't such a good therapy. Who'd a thunk it?

P.Clar, are you doubting the Batesian gospell?

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Old 08-31-2007, 04:44 AM
p.clarkii@gmail.com
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On Aug 30, 4:07 pm, "Ms.Brainy" <mikabra...[at]gmail.com> wrote:
- quote -

> The researches hypothesized not on astrology, but on a more sound
> theory: "We know that sunlight affects the pineal gland and we have
> indications that melatonin, through other compounds, is involved in
> regulating eye length," says Belkin. "More sun equals less melatonin,
> equals a longer eye which is short sighted."

i guess sunning isn't such a good therapy. Who'd a thunk it?

  #7  
Old 08-31-2007, 02:05 AM
Dr. Leukoma
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On Aug 30, 8:53 pm, Jane <clinton6...[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
- quote -

> On Aug 30, 1:46 pm, "Ms.Brainy" <mikabra...[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> > Birth Month And Short-Sightedness Linked By Tel-Aviv University
> > Researchers:
> > http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/80667.php
> > [I am speechless!]
> Ms. Brainy, it might not be quite as crazy as it sounds. There's also
> evidence that babies born during the late winter and early spring have
> a significantly greater chance of developing schizophrenia during
> their lifetime. This finding applies both north and south of the
> equator, although the months of winter and early spring are
> different. It's hypothesized that a virus during the second trimester
> of pregnancy may be to blame.
> But the research you sited is another correlational study, so maybe we
> should withhold judgment for the time being.

...and besides, the authors are talking about severe myopia, not all
myopia.

 

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