Hello,

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Wow, so are you! What a coincidence.

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It takes one to know one.

On Aug 31, 4:09 am, "otisbr...[at]pa.net" <otisbr...[at]pa.net> wrote:
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Maybe we should vote on that.

"Chronic foul language" never hurt anybody, Uncle Otie. You sure
have.

Again, you're an awful lot like the old pedophile, trolling for little
boys in his Cadillac: perfectly polite, yet evil, rotten, sick, and
nefarious to the core.

Plus (pun intended), you're a fucking idiot!

On Aug 31, 7:16 am, "Dr. Leukoma" <d...[at]leukoma.com> wrote:
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On Aug 31, 8:34 am, "otisbr...[at]pa.net" <otisbr...[at]pa.net> wrote:

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That's why hyperopia disappears, right?

-MT

Dear "L",

Subject: Some clarifications.

It is profoundly easy to quick-fix a person (after he has
INDUCED a negative refractive STATE in his eyes).

It is profoundly SIMPLE to do that.

I have no doubt (because of the PROVEN effect
of a -3 diopter lens on the eye), that the refractive
STATE of the fundamental eye FOLLOWS the
AVERAGE value of accommodation.
But of course you choose to understand NONE
of this.

So to reply:

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Here this loud and clear. No once is "forced" to wear
minus glasses. But the minus is often profoudly
over-prescribed. A person with verified 20/40 vision
will receive a -2 diopter lens -- and be told to
"wear it all the time", 16/7.

A young child with 20/60 vision, is PRESCRIBED a
-11 diopter lens (WOW), and the mother is led
to BELIEVE that the child should be FORCED
to wear that -11 diopter lens -- all the time.

Given the PROVEN effect of a -3 diopter lens on
the eye, I think that is a disaster for that young child.

DrL> Otis, where are you?

Otis> Where am I. I think that child's refractive STATE
will indeed go down very rapidly.

Otis> I think she should have been informed of the
PROVEN effect of a -3 diopter lens on the eye -- before
that child was put into a -11 diopter lens.

Otis> But that would have been a matter of RESPECTING
the mothers RIGHT to an informed choice in this
matter.

Otis> In its essence, I think that was Bate's position
on that wretched minus lens.


Otis





On Aug 31, 8:16 am, "Dr. Leukoma" <d...[at]leukoma.com> wrote:
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On Aug 31, 5:40 am, Zetsu <absolutelyinvinci...[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
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Yes. Just think of all those people who never went on to accomplish
anything in their poor useless lives because they were forced to wear
eyeglasses. Otis, where are you?

Dear P.Clar,

It is you who should depart from sci.med.vision --
with your chronic foul language.

Why do not you clean up your language -- or
stop posting on sci.med.vision?

I suggest you set up your own version.

sci.med.vision.foulmouth

Where you can post on it to your heart's content.

Because you don't like the pont-of-view of some
posters here -- in no sense means they are wrong.

In fact, you might well be wrong with you
over-prescribed minus lens -- and your
arrogance about it.

The purpose of SCIENCE is to discover the
truth about this (and other issues).

In fact an OPEN discussion of these issues
can encourage others to think for themselves.

All the more reason to post on an OPEN forum -- to
see how intellectually BLIND you are to
the facts, and fundmental scientific questions.

Second-opinion best to all,

Otis




On Aug 31, 6:13 am, p.clar...[at]gmail.com wrote:
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y r u so annoyed if i am lookin for an intelligent debate

why so much fear?

ur just scared coz ur crappy & false theories will go to hell, as will
ur sick distructiv profession of optometry

the real sick man iz u. u just like destroyin peoplez lives givin em
stupid glassses and these other crap. y dnt u learn a thing or two
from dr.bates... u might actually understand some useful stuff mate...
if thats evn possible for a dweeb of ur nature

On Aug 31, 2:33 am, Zetsu <absolutelyinvinci...[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
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this is exactly the point isn't it. you're just looking for an
argument.
thanks for demonstrating to everyone what a sick fuck you are.

well okay i will visit that place but u didn't provide a link...

and also i dnt like the name, can u change it 2
'sci.med.vision.perfectsight', coz that sounds waay cooler! nd also
can u change the colour scheme... make it blue and white background
coz that is my fav color

neway itz booring if theres no other members... no1 2 argue wiv! whats
the point of that