The symptoms can be reduced with the perfect memory of a black period,
and immunity of the body is increased when strain present in the mind
has departed.

In article <1190269938.814675.256630[at]y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com> ,
"Ms.Brainy" <mikabrainy[at]gmail.com> wrote:

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A good back rub makes people feel better.


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Perhaps it isn't a cure, but it still helps. I knew somebody who wrote
a book about it:

http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&keyw...lness&rh=n%3A2
2%2Ck%3ACoping%20with%20illness&page=1


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There's no cure for the common cold, but it helps to know how to relieve
the symptoms.

On Sep 20, 1:55 pm, centitale...[at]gmail.com wrote:
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I question the value*. Something we are all doing, ultimately.
Questioning the value of much of anything we face in the way of
medicine. In the way of prolonging our frail, human lives.

On Sep 20, 8:37 am, Zetsu <absolutelyinvinci...[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
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"Alternative" is a technical term. A right to the least invasive
alternative. It's how it's written in the law.


The problem with the term "cure" is that you cannot guarantee you are
able to rid the body of disease and then not recontract that same
disease or virus/parasite causing disease. One should look at healing
as one does continual maintenance. Extending a life is successful
medicine.

The truth is, the woman died of cancer immediately following the start
of chemotherapy. Many, many people do. If the statistics show
anything at all -- if we KNOW anything about medicine, it is that
chemotherapy does not work. It's evolved agent orange. New to this
century. Nothing more.

Many of the herbs used in alternative (eastern) medicine have been
used for thousands of years. They stood and continue to stand tests of
time. Would I use herbs, alone ... in an attempt to battle cancer?
No way. Not at all. I'd use the herbs in combination with hardcore
exercise, the ultimate zapper (a device you'll find online), vitamins,
minerals, amino acids, etc.. Ablation therapy is mainstream and is
the use of electricity in the treatment/killing of tumors so when you
scratch your head and wonder why one would choose electricity over
chemotherapy (by the use of the zapper), ask yourself what you do not
yet currently know before lashing out.

The bottom line? There are many ways to approach disease and I
question of the value of fighting one another on the topic rather than
accepting that there are alternatives and alternatives we have a
constitutional right to.

Brainy> I see it as a misleading name for unproven methods of
therapy,
providing hope to those who desperately seek miraculous solutions to
their health problems and issues.

Otis> Your opinion, of course.

Brainy> Once a method is proven effective
and safe, it is no longer "alternative" but becomes part of the
established medicine.

Otis> Many of the "methods" started out as "un-proven".
The key word is PROOF, and who exactly determines whether
a population of eyes are dynamic or not-dynamic. That
is a scientific question, and not a medical question. It
is a matter of WHO makes these judgments.

Brainy> The popular myth that the medical establishment rejects.

Otis> No, you can not reduce a scientific truth -- into
a quick-fix for the public in five minutes. And that is your
error of judgment.

Otis




On Sep 11, 10:22 pm, "Ms.Brainy" <mikabra...[at]gmail.com> wrote:
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Sorry. Rishi Giovanni Gatti (Zetsu), Lena102938, and Otis Brown are
trolls who haunt s.m.v.

Rishi has published, and is trying to sell worthless books.

Otis is pathologically dishonest and actually hurts people.
Following his advice can induce double vision in those
not working closely with an eye doctor.

Lena102938 uses anti-eye doctor rhetoric as a substitute for ANY
actual information. It seems she now has to wear glasses and has
developed a pathological (and ILLOGICAL) resentment toward the
industry that "foisted these glasses upon her."

You'd do well to ignore them and wait for responses from the
caring, compassionate eye doctors who DO also participate in this site.

Hi,

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It's not 'alternative'. Where was the 'original' cure, then?
There is none. So you can't use the word 'alternative'.
You can only say: cure. Glasses are not a cure, are they?
Just palliate the symptoms.

In article <1190269938.814675.256630[at]y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com> ,
"Ms.Brainy" <mikabrainy[at]gmail.com> wrote:


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No wonder she died!

I don't mean to make light of her story, just your retelling. Tragic
story--so sad.

--
~RT

"Ms.Brainy" <mikabrainy[at]gmail.com> wrote in news:1189578124.759556.26090
[at]w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:

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http://nccam.nih.gov/

There is an NIH center for complemetary and alternative medicine-- and thus
a mechanism for folks who believe in a particular alternative path to gain
credibility. The NIH wants to capture valuable treatment options that
might not get the recognition they deserve from the clinical world.

Of course, there are plenty of voodoo promoters that claim the government
seeks to marginalize them, simply by asking them to prove their voodoo
works.

--
Scott
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On Sep 11, 11:22 pm, "Ms.Brainy" <mikabra...[at]gmail.com> wrote:
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My original post appeared on sci.med.vision 8 days ago. It was
directed to the readers of s.m.v., but apparently found its way to
some other usenet groups, namely because of the key words "alternative
medicine". In response I received a couple of private emails,
scolding me and praising the value of herbs and natural substances, as
well as chyropractic, meditation, acupuncture, etc.

I am writing this with the expectation that this message will be
posted to the same usenet groups. My original message was not about
vegetables, vitamins, herbs, meditation, etc. I love vegetables and
certain herbs (I even grow some of them), and I further believe in
good, balanced and healthy diet. I stay away from junk food (but I
love chocolate, I must admit :-). I don't believe in chyropractic,
with perhaps some very limited exceptions. I have nothing against
meditation, but don't believe it can cure real diseases. I absolutely
don't believe in "psychic surgery", see it as a cruel fraud upon
desperate people. When I have a cold I drink fresh lemon juice with
honey -- it feels good, but has never cured my cold.

I will not go through the entire list, but will state that my personal
view is that leaving the natural state of our bodies in tact is
preferred, as long as nature does not betrays us and we have no other
choice but to interfere. Non invasive treatment is always better than
invasive one, if available and effective.

The readers of s.m.v. understood very well what my message was about.
We have encountered several persistent posters who advocate various
"alternative" methods of preventing and/or curing myopia. None has
any supporting evidence, let alone any scientific proof, and
furthermore they don't agree with each other, although they are united
in their attacks on the established medicine, particularly in the eye-
vision field.

But since we are at it, I will mention a couple of personal
experiences -- not mine, but of people that I know/knew.

One good friend of mine is caught up in the "life extension" movement,
swallowing huge quantities of food supplements and spending hundreds
of thousands of $$$ over the years -- all with the belief that he will
live longer, perhaps even hundreds of years, or at least will avoid
the aging process and remain young and healthy... He is now in his
60s, still relatively healthy, but shows all the symptoms of other
people his age -- presbyopia, arthritis, high blood pressure... He is
still in denial, but he has very expensive urine...

The other friend had a lump in her breast and no money or health
insurance. She went to an alternative "doctor" who gave her herbs and
instructed her to quit coffee and certain foods. The lump grew.
Finally, when it was a size of an orange, she went to a real doctor,
had a vasectomy, was placed on chimotherapy and radiation and died
within a short time, 2 days before her 30th birthday, leaving a young
son (no father). The magical herbs did not work. With proper medical
treatment the rate of survival of breast cancer patients is very
high. My friend lost her life to alternative medicine.

Sorry, this is off subject. Of course it doesn't mean that all
altenative methods of therapy are worthless, but the gist of my post
was that if any of them is proven effective and safe, they will become
part of the established medicine. I believe this is true about herbs
or myopia prevention.