In article <1190228862.431722.211830[at]y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> ,
"A.W." <pheonixborn[at]hotmail.com> wrote:

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Please send an update to let us know. Best of luck to you.

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Thanks to the lot of you who replied (minus the Free-As-A-Bird glasses-
breaker) and thanks again for the gel swatch testing idea, here's to
hoping it works.

Sorry. Rishi Giovanni Gatti (Zetsu), Lena102938, and Otis Brown are
trolls who haunt s.m.v.

Rishi has published, and is trying to sell worthless books.

Otis is pathologically dishonest and actually hurts people.
Following his advice can induce double vision in those
not working closely with an eye doctor.

Lena102938 uses anti-eye doctor rhetoric as a substitute for ANY
actual information. It seems she now has to wear glasses and has
developed a pathological (and ILLOGICAL) resentment toward the
industry that "foisted these glasses upon her."

You'd do well to ignore them and wait for responses from the
caring, compassionate eye doctors who DO also participate in this site.

Zetsu,

My reference to "not doctors" was in relation to my own experience with
various people who refuse to recognise that my visual disability can
seriously impact on my work. This problem came to a head a number of years
ago when my vision, very quickly, just packed up and went west. I went to
the doctor and he put me in front of a Snellen. This is the amazing thing:
as soon as I looked at the chart I knew I would not be able to read it the
normal way so I tried a little trick: I didn't "try" to see the bottom line,
I just I just read the letters off as they came to me. I read the bottom
line perfectly even though there was a great deal of blurring. The idiot
doctor said, "you have better eyesight than me". I mentioned this to a
former collaborator who said he knew of some bod somewhere who had simliar
results with patients but I have never been able to track down that source.
My particular problem is work related, there are days when I simply cannot
work but because the doctors say, "we can find nothing", I am being treated
like a malingerer.

When my problem first occurred in my early 20's. a full examination revealed
nothing. I was prescribed very weak glasses for myopia but decided to go to
the library and see what I could find out about the subject. The only book
there was Bates. I read it, I did it, since then I have always scored higher
on visual acuity tests than prior to that. So as I have previously asserted
on this forum I do think there is, for a subset of people, some benefit to
be derived from Bates. If only because of the emergence of visual therapy I
suspect the conventional medical community has quietly acknowledged that
"vision training" can be of benefit.

However Bates supporters go way too far and really should refrain from these
pointless attacks on the conventional approach. Bates supporters also fail
to recognise that while Bates obviously has helped thousands of people it
will not work for everyone or even the majority.

So I"m stuck in the middle Zetsu, people here hate you lot but I'm
indifferent. A more civil tone would be highly welcome and a return to
general discussion rather than this endless bickering is desperately needed
here.


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In article <1190139159.493603.82630[at]n39g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> ,
"A.W." <pheonixborn[at]hotmail.com> wrote:

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I don't know if this is helpful or not, but why not contact a theatrical
or film lighting production company and ask for a gel swatch book. This
is a book of all of the different color plastic gels they sell for
lighting instruments. You could test out what different colored lenses
do to your eyes by looking through the gel swatches. Lee Filters is the
best known gel company. There is info on swatch books on this page:
<http://www.leefiltersusa.com/NewLigh...ewProdSWB.html
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On Sep 17, 10:56 pm, "Dr. Leukoma" <d...[at]leukoma.com> wrote:
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Sort of; someone recommended trying tinted screens several months ago
for reading but I couldn't find anyone who sold them, so I thought to
try tinted lenses. I described the problem to the woman who took care
of the ordering process in the office and asked if they provide tinted
lenses, and she suggested the lenses that darken in light. Not a bad
effort, except I can't discern some things with them on when it's
really sunny because it gets too dark for me to tell where potholes
and curbs are, where exactly some objects begin and end and how fast
they're moving towards me when I'm biking because I get them badly
confused with the shadows. They're decent if I'm walking and it's not
particularly bright, though. I could try colored tints but I've no
idea which one would work and I doubt they give trial pairs. I suppose
I could try an edjumacated guess, worth a shot.

Hi John H Sir,

You are right, the doctor know next to nothing about vision.
But they would be able to expand their small little knowledge to a big
and vast knowledge, if they read the Perfect Sight triology and began
the rest methods and thereby demonstrating the truth of the defects in
vision; that they are all curable.

Obviously, as you said reading a snellen alone means nothing.

If the actual eyesight is not sharp, then that would be stupid.
I am not saying that 'if you can read bottom line of snellen', you
have been cured. I am just saying that if you can see again, then you
have been cured.

The snellen chart is a good practice for the eyes, read everyday,
however. This practice is not about 'memorizing the chart', or
guessing, et cetera. It is differnent from that; I mean the way that
Dr.Bates suggested it should be done; he did not mean it as in a
'measurement' way, he meant it as a method of improving the sight;
another of the rest methods.

It is not difficult to understand, but you are unable to do so.

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You should not ever ever give up. My friend taught me: Always strive
for better, and dont stop until you reach goal.

I also have amblyopia and experience many strange symptoms the doctors can't
explain. There are a number of people on this forum who report strange
symptoms that cannot be explained. You'll have to accept the idea that we
know next to nothing about how we see and in your case the problems may
never be solved. I certainly have given up and I've seen the best. That I
can live with. What I can't live with is idiots (not doctors) who think that
just because you can read a Snellen ( I can do the bottom line) everything
is fine. If you've been through the medical mill without result then
remember that insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting
a different result. Perhaps what you should aim for is a teaching hospital,
perhaps they might enjoy problematic cases.
"A.W." <pheonixborn[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 15, 7:10 pm, "A.W." <pheonixb...[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
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Have you tried experimenting with different tints to see if this is
something that can be filtered out without distorting the color too
much?

On Sep 17, 10:26 pm, "A.W." <pheonixb...[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
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Find an opthalmologist and describe your symtems to him/her. As far as
payment, there are ways to pay over time. Never put money over your
health.