> > > So let me get this straight. Your outcome was successful and Ben's was
> not. Therefore, according to your logic Ben should have read the
> informed consent form and all would have been well with her LASIK.
> Does that make sense? You read the form and proceeded. Did reading the
> form make you immune to damage from LASIK? I don't think so.

> Perhaps the main difference between Ben and you is that you didn't
> draw the short straw in the short-term of LASIK.

> > Dear Ben
> > IF you had read the informed consent like I did, then you would have
> > know the risks, they have you read it and sign it BEFORE your surgery.
> > I had LASIK with the BEST surgeon in the area...Dr. Dean Dornic, and
> > so has many, many of my friends and my family members as well, he is
> > an exceptional surgeon and the staff in awesome, I have and will
> > continue to support Dr. Dornic and recommend him to as many people as
> > I can..he is by far the best. By the way, my LASIK flap HAS healed and
> > my vision was 20/15 the day after surgery and it is still to this day
> > 20/15...oh, and by the way, my surgery was about 4 years ago!
> So let me get this straight. Your outcome was successful and Ben's was
> not. Therefore, according to your logic Ben should have read the
> informed consent form and all would have been well with her LASIK.
> Does that make sense? You read the form and proceeded. Did reading the
> form make you immune to damage from LASIK? I don't think so.
> Perhaps the main difference between Ben and you is that you didn't
> draw the short straw in the short-term of LASIK.

> Dear Ben
> IF you had read the informed consent like I did, then you would have
> know the risks, they have you read it and sign it BEFORE your surgery.
> I had LASIK with the BEST surgeon in the area...Dr. Dean Dornic, and
> so has many, many of my friends and my family members as well, he is
> an exceptional surgeon and the staff in awesome, I have and will
> continue to support Dr. Dornic and recommend him to as many people as
> I can..he is by far the best. By the way, my LASIK flap HAS healed and
> my vision was 20/15 the day after surgery and it is still to this day
> 20/15...oh, and by the way, my surgery was about 4 years ago!

> Dr. Dean Dornic, MD - patient suicidal over LASIK outcome
> It's ironic that LASIK surgeon Dr. Dean Dornic, MD , practicing in
> Cary, North Carolina, would write an editorial to the Raleigh News and
> Observer claiming that the universally damaging surgery that he
> performs has been unfairly maligned, as one of his own patients is
> currently suicidal over post-LASIK chronic pain.
> The LASIK flap never heals, Dr. Dornic - corneal nerve damage is
> probably permanent after LASIK, and resulting dry eye and associated
> ocular surface disease is present in nearly half of patients with
> superior hinge flaps SIX months after LASIK. LASIK dry eye can be
> extremely painful. Do a search for "flap never heals" athttp://www.thelasikflap.com/forum, and also check out the dry eye
> forum athttp://www.thelasikflap.com/forum.
> Objective tests, not patient satisfaction surveys... must be performed
> to evaluate LASIK, because a patient with damaged corneal nerves may
> not be capable of sensing dryness.
> Also, a patient who receives bilateral simultaneous LASIK may not
> realize how much night vision they have lost without a 'good eye' for
> comparison.
> Since when is a surgery that creates a flap that is only around 2% as
> strong as a normal cornea and will never heal... healthy for patients
> in any way and acceptable as a vision correction alternative?
> Clinical trials for the VISX lasers included contrast sensitivity
> data, but these data were not submitted in the original PMA
> application to the FDA. Why? Poor results! Significant loss of
> contrast sensitivity was found at every time point studied - out to a
> year. Certainly they didn't want to admit THIS to the FDA.
> Dr. Dean Dornic, MD was aware when he wrote this editorial that he had
> a patient with servere post-LASIK dry eye pain in serious crisis. Dr.
> Dean Dornic's callous advice to this woman was to wear goggles. LASIK
> surgeons know that they cause serious nerve damage with each surgery
> and that most patients will experience dry eye. Even the FDA admits
> that LASIK dry eye can be permanent! Patients have been legally
> blinded by LASIK, and have lost careers, homes, and relationships from
> this mutilation masquerading as medicine. Yet, Dr. Dean Dornic dares
> to equate risks of LASIK with condiment blobs on clothes from fast
> food.
> This comment would be monstrous uttered by any person, but is
> especially disturbing from the mouth of a physician.
> LASIK is so profitable to surgeons that they simply cannot be trusted
> to give advice that is in a patient's best interest.
> LASIK causes permanent irreparable harm to every eye on which it is
> performed. LASIK, even wavefront LASIK, increases corneal distortions
> known as higher order aberrations, even though wavefront treatments
> are disingenuously marketed to treat higher order aberrations. They
> don't. They cause them in normal previously unoperated eyes.
> Recently it was found that corneal cell loss in patients who have had
> any form of excimer laser eye surgery is signficant and progressive.
> Patients are found to lose corneal tissue at 7-9 times the rate of a
> healthy unoperated eye.
> It's no surprise, then that patients are experiencing corneal thinning
> and bulging known as post-LASIK ectasia years after supposedly
> successful surgeries.
> It is also likely that most if not all patients who have had LASIK
> will develop severe dry eye with age. Patients who have NOT had their
> corneal nerves sliced and burned tend to develop dry eye with age.
> Imagine what dryness associated with aging will be like for patients
> who have already lost much of their corneal nerve density to an
> overmarketed, overhyped, dangerous, and universally damaging elective
> eye surgery?
> Any patient considering LASIK should read The LASIK Report athttp://www.thelasikreport.comand also the Top Ten Reasons Not to Have
> LASIK athttp://www.thelasikflap.com/forum.
> Surgeons like Dr. Dean Dornic, MD, who market and perform elective
> excimer laser eye surgeries such as LASIK may one day become the
> leading cause of vision loss and eye pathology in America.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Dr. Dean Dornic, MD - patient suicidal over LASIK outcome
> Scientist
> No such thing as exceptional LASIK surgery
> I just came across this on the internet:
> Quote:
> Dr. Dean Dornic - Providing Exceptional LASIK Surgery in Cary, NC
> There is no such thing as exceptional LASIK surgery. That's sort of
> like saying 'terrific unneccessary amputation' or 'glorious
> mutilation'.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Dr. Dean Dornic, MD - patient suicidal over LASIK outcome
> Ben Dornicked
> I have been Dornicked by Dr. Dean Dornic, MD
> Got dry eye? I do.
> Pre-existing dry eye is supposed to be a contraindication for corneal
> refracive surgery. I had contact lens intolerance which should have
> been a red flag for development of serious post-LASIK dry eye. Dr.
> Dean Dornic told me that getting LASIK eye surgery is safer than
> wearing contacts.
> There is no way this is true.
> Do contact lenses permanently damage the eyes of every wearer?
> LASIK permanently damages the eyes of every patient who has this
> surgery. The flap never heals. The nerves never regenerate normally.
> Patients end up with corneas that are more irregular and distorted.
> I am angry with Dr. Dornic and his entire office staff. I wonder what
> their meetings are like? The whole staff logically must be
> collaborating to victimize patients like myself. I have definitely
> been victimized. There is no way I had proper informed consent for my
> procedure. If I had heard a fraction of the truth about LASIK I would
> have headed for the door.
> In my opinion, this LASIK surgery is a sham and the so-called doctors
> who perform it are a menace to society.
> --------------------------------------------------------------- > Dr. Dean Dornic, MD - patient suicidal over LASIK outcome
> Ben Dornicked
> Why lasik surgeons suck
> Mommas, don't let your babes grow up to be lasik surgeons.
> Let them be teachers and nurses and caregivers,
> Let them be honest citizens,
> The world does not need another lasik surgeon!
> They say "watch your back"
> You better watch your eyes!
> I used to pray for world peace, harmony,
> Now I pray for my corneal nerves.
> Let me get through another day,
> as I journey this healing path,
> All those injured find healing and support,
> To you lasik surgeons, you suck!!!!
> ---------------------------------------------------------- > Dr. Dean Dornic, MD - patient suicidal over LASIK outcome
> Posted: 31 Oct 2007 02:19 am
> Eye
> Ben - you still have some healing time left. That isn't to say you
> won't have some dry eye. Yes, your doctor performed an unneccessary
> mutilation of your corneas - a mutilation that wasn't explained well
> enough for you to possibly give proper informed consent.
> Some patients have dry eye so severe they must wear goggles full time
> and cannot enjoy something as simple as watching a movie or reading a
> book. You are not one of those people.
> However, your flap will never heal. The LASIK flap never heals. But
> you will find strength in other patients and use your very public
> position to inform others about how unbelievably harmful excimer laser
> eye surgeries really are and you will be able to keep many eyes safe
> from the so-called doctors who would violate the Hippocratic oath
> 'First do no harm' to make themselves rich at the expense of the
> vision and eye health of patients in their own communities.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Dr. Dean Dornic, MD - patient suicidal over LASIK outcome
> Eye Pain
> Dr. Dean Dornic, MD is advertising in Durham, NC
> Dr. Dean Dornic, MD had a full page ad in the Durham Herald Sun
> yesterday. I suppose now that he has exposed his callous views to the
> readers of the Raleigh News & Observer, he has decided to try his hand
> at luring in Durham and Triangle residents into his Cary, NC and
> Smithfield, NC offices.
> Does Dr. Dean Dornic, MD list the risks of LASIK in his
> advertisements? Of course not! Instead his ads state things like
> "Beyond 20/20" without listing ANY of the risks of LASIK.
> Dr. Dean Dornic, MD should take note that many medical doctors who
> took their Hippocratic Oath seriously consider this type of
> advertising to be unethical. In fact, many feel that LASIK
> advertisements are the epitome of unethical sensationalism.
> Yet Dr. Dean Dornic, MD with offices in Cary, NC and Smithfield, NC
> has the nerve to claim that a thoroughly researched news report on
> LASIK that is backed by real statistical data is sensationalized.
> Perhaps Dr. Dean Dornic, MD considers the definition of sensationalism
> to be any truth that hurts his wallet.
> I suggest that Dr. Dean Dornic, MD balance his advertisements by using
> ads like "Beyond 20/20 or Eye Hell ... do you feel lucky today?" or
> how about "Beyond 20/20 and if something goes wrong, you're screwed
> because LASIK MD's like myself cannot fix the problems that we
> create".
> _________________
> "It's the same each time with progress. First they ignore you, then
> they say you're mad, then dangerous, then there's a pause and then you
> can't find anyone who disagrees with you." - Tony Benn (b. 1925),
> British Labour politician.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Dr. Dean Dornic, MD - patient suicidal over LASIK outcome
> Posted: 04 Nov 2007 01:19 am
> Eye
> Quote:
> Does Dr. Dean Dornic, MD list the risks of LASIK in his
> advertisements? Of course not! Instead his ads state things like
> "Beyond 20/20" without listing ANY of the risks of LASIK.
> The LASIK-induced eye pain that Dr. Dean Dornic's suicidal patient is
> currently experiencing is certainly 'beyond 20/20'.
> ...
> read more >
Dear Ben

> Wow Lauranell Burch again, huh? Who have you tricked into being a
> pawn in your sick game this time, Nell? If this poster is stupid
> enough to get involved with people under FTC and FBI investigation
> then she might as well commit suicide. You are all going to spend a
> long time in jail Hopefully the NIH will be smart enough to fire
> your ass before you end up in the clink and if the world is lucky,
> you'll take Sabine Vollmer down too. One hell of a journalist -
> sources stories from a woman her own paper reported as a crook and a
> criminal only months before. Say goodbye to your career, honey. You
> are going down.

> Psycho dumbass spam

> Dr. Dean Dornic, MD - patient suicidal over LASIK outcome
> It's ironic that LASIK surgeon Dr. Dean Dornic, MD , practicing in
> Cary, North Carolina, would write an editorial to the Raleigh News and
> Observer claiming that the universally damaging surgery that he
> performs has been unfairly maligned, as one of his own patients is
> currently suicidal over post-LASIK chronic pain.
> The LASIK flap never heals, Dr. Dornic - corneal nerve damage is
> probably permanent after LASIK, and resulting dry eye and associated
> ocular surface disease is present in nearly half of patients with
> superior hinge flaps SIX months after LASIK. LASIK dry eye can be
> extremely painful. Do a search for "flap never heals" athttp://www.thelasikflap.com/forum, and also check out the dry eye
> forum athttp://www.thelasikflap.com/forum.
> Objective tests, not patient satisfaction surveys... must be performed
> to evaluate LASIK, because a patient with damaged corneal nerves may
> not be capable of sensing dryness.
> Also, a patient who receives bilateral simultaneous LASIK may not
> realize how much night vision they have lost without a 'good eye' for
> comparison.
> Since when is a surgery that creates a flap that is only around 2% as
> strong as a normal cornea and will never heal... healthy for patients
> in any way and acceptable as a vision correction alternative?
> Clinical trials for the VISX lasers included contrast sensitivity
> data, but these data were not submitted in the original PMA
> application to the FDA. Why? Poor results! Significant loss of
> contrast sensitivity was found at every time point studied - out to a
> year. Certainly they didn't want to admit THIS to the FDA.
> Dr. Dean Dornic, MD was aware when he wrote this editorial that he had
> a patient with servere post-LASIK dry eye pain in serious crisis. Dr.
> Dean Dornic's callous advice to this woman was to wear goggles. LASIK
> surgeons know that they cause serious nerve damage with each surgery
> and that most patients will experience dry eye. Even the FDA admits
> that LASIK dry eye can be permanent! Patients have been legally
> blinded by LASIK, and have lost careers, homes, and relationships from
> this mutilation masquerading as medicine. Yet, Dr. Dean Dornic dares
> to equate risks of LASIK with condiment blobs on clothes from fast
> food.
> This comment would be monstrous uttered by any person, but is
> especially disturbing from the mouth of a physician.
> LASIK is so profitable to surgeons that they simply cannot be trusted
> to give advice that is in a patient's best interest.
> LASIK causes permanent irreparable harm to every eye on which it is
> performed. LASIK, even wavefront LASIK, increases corneal distortions
> known as higher order aberrations, even though wavefront treatments
> are disingenuously marketed to treat higher order aberrations. They
> don't. They cause them in normal previously unoperated eyes.
> Recently it was found that corneal cell loss in patients who have had
> any form of excimer laser eye surgery is signficant and progressive.
> Patients are found to lose corneal tissue at 7-9 times the rate of a
> healthy unoperated eye.
> It's no surprise, then that patients are experiencing corneal thinning
> and bulging known as post-LASIK ectasia years after supposedly
> successful surgeries.
> It is also likely that most if not all patients who have had LASIK
> will develop severe dry eye with age. Patients who have NOT had their
> corneal nerves sliced and burned tend to develop dry eye with age.
> Imagine what dryness associated with aging will be like for patients
> who have already lost much of their corneal nerve density to an
> overmarketed, overhyped, dangerous, and universally damaging elective
> eye surgery?
> Any patient considering LASIK should read The LASIK Report athttp://www.thelasikreport.comand also the Top Ten Reasons Not to Have
> LASIK athttp://www.thelasikflap.com/forum.
> Surgeons like Dr. Dean Dornic, MD, who market and perform elective
> excimer laser eye surgeries such as LASIK may one day become the
> leading cause of vision loss and eye pathology in America.
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Dr. Dean Dornic, MD - patient suicidal over LASIK outcome
> Scientist
> No such thing as exceptional LASIK surgery
> I just came across this on the internet:
> Quote:
> Dr. Dean Dornic - Providing Exceptional LASIK Surgery in Cary, NC
> There is no such thing as exceptional LASIK surgery. That's sort of
> like saying 'terrific unneccessary amputation' or 'glorious
> mutilation'.
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Dr. Dean Dornic, MD - patient suicidal over LASIK outcome
> Ben Dornicked
> I have been Dornicked by Dr. Dean Dornic, MD
> Got dry eye? I do.
> Pre-existing dry eye is supposed to be a contraindication for corneal
> refracive surgery. I had contact lens intolerance which should have
> been a red flag for development of serious post-LASIK dry eye. Dr.
> Dean Dornic told me that getting LASIK eye surgery is safer than
> wearing contacts.
> There is no way this is true.
> Do contact lenses permanently damage the eyes of every wearer?
> LASIK permanently damages the eyes of every patient who has this
> surgery. The flap never heals. The nerves never regenerate normally.
> Patients end up with corneas that are more irregular and distorted.
> I am angry with Dr. Dornic and his entire office staff. I wonder what
> their meetings are like? The whole staff logically must be
> collaborating to victimize patients like myself. I have definitely
> been victimized. There is no way I had proper informed consent for my
> procedure. If I had heard a fraction of the truth about LASIK I would
> have headed for the door.
> In my opinion, this LASIK surgery is a sham and the so-called doctors
> who perform it are a menace to society.
> ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Dr. Dean Dornic, MD - patient suicidal over LASIK outcome
> Ben Dornicked
> Why lasik surgeons suck
> Mommas, don't let your babes grow up to be lasik surgeons.
> Let them be teachers and nurses and caregivers,
> Let them be honest citizens,
> The world does not need another lasik surgeon!
> They say "watch your back"
> You better watch your eyes!
> I used to pray for world peace, harmony,
> Now I pray for my corneal nerves.
> Let me get through another day,
> as I journey this healing path,
> All those injured find healing and support,
> To you lasik surgeons, you suck!!!!
> ----------------------------------------------------------- > Dr. Dean Dornic, MD - patient suicidal over LASIK outcome
> Posted: 31 Oct 2007 02:19 am
> Eye
> Ben - you still have some healing time left. That isn't to say you
> won't have some dry eye. Yes, your doctor performed an unneccessary
> mutilation of your corneas - a mutilation that wasn't explained well
> enough for you to possibly give proper informed consent.
> Some patients have dry eye so severe they must wear goggles full time
> and cannot enjoy something as simple as watching a movie or reading a
> book. You are not one of those people.
> However, your flap will never heal. The LASIK flap never heals. But
> you will find strength in other patients and use your very public
> position to inform others about how unbelievably harmful excimer laser
> eye surgeries really are and you will be able to keep many eyes safe
> from the so-called doctors who would violate the Hippocratic oath
> 'First do no harm' to make themselves rich at the expense of the
> vision and eye health of patients in their own communities.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Dr. Dean Dornic, MD - patient suicidal over LASIK outcome
> Eye Pain
> Dr. Dean Dornic, MD is advertising in Durham, NC
> Dr. Dean Dornic, MD had a full page ad in the Durham Herald Sun
> yesterday. I suppose now that he has exposed his callous views to the
> readers of the Raleigh News & Observer, he has decided to try his hand
> at luring in Durham and Triangle residents into his Cary, NC and
> Smithfield, NC offices.
> Does Dr. Dean Dornic, MD list the risks of LASIK in his
> advertisements? Of course not! Instead his ads state things like
> "Beyond 20/20" without listing ANY of the risks of LASIK.
> Dr. Dean Dornic, MD should take note that many medical doctors who
> took their Hippocratic Oath seriously consider this type of
> advertising to be unethical. In fact, many feel that LASIK
> advertisements are the epitome of unethical sensationalism.
> Yet Dr. Dean Dornic, MD with offices in Cary, NC and Smithfield, NC
> has the nerve to claim that a thoroughly researched news report on
> LASIK that is backed by real statistical data is sensationalized.
> Perhaps Dr. Dean Dornic, MD considers the definition of sensationalism
> to be any truth that hurts his wallet.
> I suggest that Dr. Dean Dornic, MD balance his advertisements by using
> ads like "Beyond 20/20 or Eye Hell ... do you feel lucky today?" or
> how about "Beyond 20/20 and if something goes wrong, you're screwed
> because LASIK MD's like myself cannot fix the problems that we
> create".
> _________________
> "It's the same each time with progress. First they ignore you, then
> they say you're mad, then dangerous, then there's a pause and then you
> can't find anyone who disagrees with you." - Tony Benn (b. 1925),
> British Labour politician.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Dr. Dean Dornic, MD - patient suicidal over LASIK outcome
> Posted: 04 Nov 2007 01:19 am
> Eye
> Quote:
> Does Dr. Dean Dornic, MD list the risks of LASIK in his
> advertisements? Of course not! Instead his ads state things like
> "Beyond 20/20" without listing ANY of the risks of LASIK.
> The LASIK-induced eye pain that Dr. Dean Dornic's suicidal patient is
> currently experiencing is certainly 'beyond 20/20'.
> ...
> read more >
Wow Lauranell Burch again, huh? Who have you tricked into being a