On Dec 25, 9:37*am, "Mike Tyner" <mty...[at]mindspring.com> wrote:

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I check that out too. Most of the water runs off after rinsing. Few
droplets of water always remain on the lenses.

Then again, this isn't any different from how water runs off from my
previous lenses, for which I requested regular AR coatings.

I guess this is one of those things where the products don't perform
as advertised. Either that or I possibly have fake Crizals.

"dacconverter" <seagate1556[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
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No, most AR coatings have green (or other colors) reflections. It partly
depends on the type of light in the room.

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That suggests they were not made in the in-store lab and they had to be sent
out to a local lab. They probably ordered an Essilor lens (Essilor also
makes Crizal) instead of using the brand of lens they have in stock (which
they can get cheaper than the Essilor lens).

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As I have already explained in 2 previous posts, that is because not only
the AR coating was different, but the lens was probably different than the
$80 lens that they have in-stock in the store. It may have been the same
index, or a different index lens, but it was probably from a different
manufacturer. I would ask them the index (or material) of your new lens.

Also, please stop calling it a Crizal lens. The Crizal AR coating can be
applied to many different lenses of different indexes and materials (that
have different prices). Crizal is just a coating, and there are many other
things that determine the price of a lens besides the AR coating.

On Dec 25, 11:16*am, "Mark A" <nob...[at]nowhere.com> wrote:

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Is it only Crizal coatings that have green reflections?

My previous lenses also had green reflections and I don't ever recall
ordering premium coatings for them.


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you
ordered


I ordered my glasses on a late Friday. I received a phone call on the
following Wednesday to pick up my glasses. Not sure if that implies
where my lenses were made.


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It was $250 extra for Crizal, on top of the $80 for regular AR
lenses.

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The manufacturing cost of the frames was about $5, so designer frames a
gigantic rip-off. Actually all frames are pretty much of a rip-off. I would
check this website to see whether you paid over the actual retail for the
frames (obviously this place sells below retail, but they don't have a
walk-in store in NYC).
http://www.framesdirect.com/framesfc...lgoc-pr-l.html

When they added Crizal AR and charged you $250 more, I suspect that they
also changed the lens material compared to the $80 lenses. Crizal cannot be
added any lens by the in-store lab and it requires that they either use a
brand-name pre-finished lens in stock that comes with Crizal already on it
(probably from Essilor) or send the order out to a lab that can put Crizal
coating on it. This is probably going to cost more than using the same type
of generic brand lenses they have for their in-house lab, even if it is the
same type of material. How long did it take to get your lenses made ? (this
will indicate whether they were made in-store or whether they had to order
them from a lab).

I think you are being a bit paranoid about the Crizal. Since they have green
reelections they are definitely AR coated. The only real benefit of Crizal
over other AR coatings is that Crizal is more durable (and easier to clean
if you have Crizal Alize). Your vision will not be any different from
another type of AR coating. If the lenses are made by Essilor (ask them) and
it not made in-store, then they probably are Crizal if that is what you
ordered.

I would contact the store and ask them for an explanation of the type of
material (brand, index, etc) of the $80 lens versus the $250 lens.

"dacconverter" <seagate1556[at]hotmail.com> wrote

reflections. On top of being unable to verify my lens coatings, I'm
not really noticing any difference from these lenses, which are
supposedly Crizal )

Crizal is hydrophobic, meaning water should bead up and run off after
rinsing.

-MT

On Dec 24, 8:02*pm, "Mark A" <nob...[at]nowhere.com> wrote:
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The initial cost breakdown of my glasses was $330 for Calvin Klein
frames + $80 for AR lenses. When I said I wanted Crizal, they added an
extra $250 onto the given subtotal. I purchased this at an eyewear
chain, called Cohen's Fashion Optical, in NYC.

And I don't think these lenses are thinner than the ones I previously
had. Lenses from both pair are around ~2.8 mm in thickness.

My prescription for both glasses are the same, at -3 for right for
-3.25 for the left ( spherical ).

Do you think I paid a reasonable price? And is there any way for me to
check if they really added Crizal onto my lenses?

( Crizal's website says to hold the lenses underneath light and check
for green/yellow hue. I didn't see the yellow on my lenses. I saw
mostly a green reflection. Then again, my older pairs also shone green
reflections. On top of being unable to verify my lens coatings, I'm
not really noticing any difference from these lenses, which are
supposedly Crizal )

"dacconverter" <seagate1556[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I think you are confused. Crizal is an AR (anti-reflective) coating not a
lens type. AR coating can be applied to most any lens material and it
reduces glare, which improves your vision, and makes your glasses look
better because people can see your eyes and face instead of reflections.

Crizal is more durable than regular AR coatings, which makes it more
expensive than regular AR coatings. Crizal Alize is similar to regular
Crizal, but is easier to clean than regular Crizal. So the durability and
ease of cleaning is what makes Crizal or Crizal Alize better than most
regular AR coatings (although there are some other premium AR coatings that
are just as good). . If your lenses have AR coating and your optician told
you they have Crizal or Crizal Alize, then you probably shouldn't have any
reason to doubt them unless they scratch very easily.

But Crizal or Crizal Alize do not cost $200-$250 extra (from the same
store). You probably have a different lens material than previously (not
just a different lens coating), which is a higher index and is thinner than
your previous lenses, that also contributes to at least half of the
increased price in your lens. You may have polycarb (1.59 index), 1.67
index, etc, that make the lens (irrespective of the AR coating) more
expensive than your previous lenses. Perhaps if you ask your optician
exactly what lens brand, lens model, lens material, and coating you have,
they will tell you.

But it may depend on where you purchased your original lenses as to what
explains the increase in price you have paid.

Previously, I had eyewear with regular anti-reflective lenses.

Since two weeks ago, I have been wearing new glasses, this time with
Crizal lenses. I purchased this from Cohen's Fashion Optical.

Maybe I missed the point but exactly how is this supposed to be better
than my regular old AR lenses?

More importantly, is there a way for me to check if my glasses
genuinely have Crizal lenses?

The opticians added an upward of $200-$250 extra for my Crizal lenses.
Given that I'm not really noticing any difference, I can't help but
wonder if they accidentally/intentionally forgot to include Crizal
coating onto my current lenses.