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| In article <IxfIj.15081$_v3.2529[at]edtnps90> , <nospam[at]nospam.com> wrote: - quote - > It looks like my email touched on a sensitive subject, which unfortunately,
I don't think the optometrists are anxious to change prescriptions The> did not generate many answers to my questions. What questions should I be > asking to ensure that my perscription is not unecessarily changed? optometrist goes by what you tell him/her during the refraction. If you recall they put up lenses and say is this better, or is this better. Is this better or is this better until you can't tell the difference. You don't say how old you are but if you are myopic it will change for a number of years and then stop. That is normal. Have a discussion with the optometrist and tell him that you are satisfied with your current prescription. If the changes are really small as you say then you can probably convince him not to change your prescription. I have in the many years I have had exams, every year, both convinced, the optometrist not to change the prescription. And I have also convinced the optometrist to make a small change. It is not a matter of challenging them but of getting the best prescription and you being happy with it. I don't see why you think they would want to over prescribe. They can only figure out your prescription from you feedback during the exam! -- Charles |
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| It looks like my email touched on a sensitive subject, which unfortunately, did not generate many answers to my questions. What questions should I be asking to ensure that my perscription is not unecessarily changed? Thank you, Chris "C" <nospam[at]nospam.com> wrote in message news:LCsHj.2734$pb5.619[at]edtnps89... - quote - > Every time I go to the optometrist, they want to slightly change my > prescription. I always resist these changes for the following reasons: > 1) I used to go to the optometrist yearly. Every year, they would change > a lens (and it was always the opposite lens as the year before). They > wouldn't change the prescription much, but as soon as they would change a > lens, my opposite eye would get a bit lazy and lose some of it's acuity. > Ironically, when I quick going to optometrist, my vision never declined > any further. Yes, the opposite eye lost some of it's acuity, but as long > as they weren't changing lens, it never declined. Thus, I am somewhat > suspicious that lens changes permit my eyes to be lazy and they decline. > Whereas, if I make the eyes work, they won't decline. I should point out > that the corrections they are making are never that large, and my vision > is usually 20/20 (or slightly better) in the eye they did the most recent > lens change in, and something just less than 20/20 in the other. > 2) My vision changes from day to day. If I've had several good nights > sleep, and it is early in the morning my vision is clear. If I have been > working long hours (with little sleep), my vision will decline throughout > the day. But my vision always seems to restore itself once I've had a few > days of rest. Consequently, when the optometrist wants to change my > prescription, I half suspect that on a different day, the results of the > test may be different. > 3) It is very costly to change my prescription, because I have contact > lens, and two pairs of glasses. I find that when they change my > prescription (even when it is a slight change), it is hard to go back to > the old glasses. Consequently, a prescription change means a large cost. > Currently, my lens in one pair of glasses is all scratched up, and they > will not replace lens without a current prescription. Thus, I need to go > back to the optometrist. How do I ensure that they aren't > "over-prescribing"? The last optometrist wanted to change the > prescription of my one eye slightly, but when I challenged her on it, she > agreed it wasn't necessary. But educated professionals don't like to be > challenged. What is the best way for me to challenge an optometrist? > What questions should I be asking? How do I do it without offending. > Thank you for your insights. > Chris |
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| On Mar 30, 9:03*am, Neil Brooks <neil0...[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > > WWOD in this situation?
Wrong. He would ignore the data because it didn't fit the hypothesis.> Blame the patient for "lacking personal resolve" or "will" or > "intestinal fortitude" or "intellectual capacity," or some such tripe.- |
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| On Mar 30, 7:26 am, "Dr. Leukoma" <d...[at]leukoma.com> wrote: - quote - > On Mar 29, 11:57 pm, otisbr...[at]embarqmail.com wrote:
Blame the patient for "lacking personal resolve" or "will" or> > The suspicion began to dawn on me slowly that among the causes of > > progressive myopia it might be necessary to list concave (minus) > > lenses themselves. > > From many articles that have appeared in the past on the subject of > > 'Optical Poison', > > a familiar term a decade ago, many other optometrists appear to have > > the same idea. > > Dr. Samuel Druker of Brooklyn, NY, in the Optical Journal > One year ago I prescribed a minus prescription with a bifocal for a > young myopic lady who demonstrated nearpoint esophoria and > accommodative lag. I followed Dr. FA Young's advice to the letter. > Yesterday I found that her myopia increased a full diopter from one > year ago (manifest and cycloplegic). > WWOD in this situation? "intestinal fortitude" or "intellectual capacity," or some such tripe. |
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| On Mar 29, 11:57*pm, otisbr...[at]embarqmail.com wrote: - quote - > The suspicion began to dawn on me slowly that among the causes of
One year ago I prescribed a minus prescription with a bifocal for a> progressive myopia it might be necessary to list concave (minus) > lenses themselves. > From many articles that have appeared in the past on the subject of > 'Optical Poison', > a familiar term a decade ago, many other optometrists appear to have > the same idea. > Dr. Samuel Druker of Brooklyn, NY, in the Optical Journal young myopic lady who demonstrated nearpoint esophoria and accommodative lag. I followed Dr. FA Young's advice to the letter. Yesterday I found that her myopia increased a full diopter from one year ago (manifest and cycloplegic). WWOD in this situation? |
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| On Mar 29, 11:57*pm, otisbr...[at]embarqmail.com wrote: - quote - > And of course, rather than being "safe" as the majority-opinion OD
Dr. Samuel Druker of Brooklyn, NY, in the Optical Journal, March 15,> might WISH, > there is a problem with it: > The suspicion began to dawn on me slowly that among the causes of > progressive myopia it might be necessary to list concave (minus) > lenses themselves. > From many articles that have appeared in the past on the subject of > 'Optical Poison', > a familiar term a decade ago, many other optometrists appear to have > the same idea. > Dr. Samuel Druker of Brooklyn, NY, in the Optical Journal 1946. Yes, blow the one inch of accumulated dust off that journal so we might have a look, eh? |
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| Until my wife finally had PRK, she was a stable low myope for some 20+ years, through school, college, and a Master's degree. She wore her minus lenses the entire time. What happened, Otis? Why does your theory fall apart in the real world? |
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| On Mar 29, 7:35 pm, "Dr. Leukoma" <d...[at]leukoma.com> wrote: - quote - > I can also confirm from first-hand experience that when one gets shoes
My hair didn't REALLY start growing until my first haircut.> for full time wear, one will need a larger and larger shoe each year > until adulthood....ditto shirts, pants, etc., etc. Otis? The evidence all contradicts you, there, buddy. Even in the chicken and monkey tests that YOU love, short breaks (NOT suturing a lens onto an animal that sees 20/20 and doesn't NEED the lens) prevented any change in the underlying vision. But why would anybody suture a lens onto an animal that doesn't need the lens? Frequent breaks, lots of fresh air and exercise, meticulous visual hygiene, and "periocular warming." Better than ANYTHING Otis Brown will EVER say, AND based on science, not faith. |
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| And of course, rather than being "safe" as the majority-opinion OD might WISH, there is a problem with it: The suspicion began to dawn on me slowly that among the causes of progressive myopia it might be necessary to list concave (minus) lenses themselves. From many articles that have appeared in the past on the subject of 'Optical Poison', a familiar term a decade ago, many other optometrists appear to have the same idea. Dr. Samuel Druker of Brooklyn, NY, in the Optical Journal On Mar 29, 10:35*pm, "Dr. Leukoma" <d...[at]leukoma.com> wrote: - quote - > On Mar 29, 9:00*pm, otisbr...[at]embarqmail.com wrote: > > And of course the expert second-opinion: > > I have yet to hear of a research paper confirming the beneficial > > effect of prescribing compensatory lenses. > > I am sure most optometrists will confirm the clinical observation that > > patients who receive compensatory lenses for full time wear > > are usually the ones who need a stronger prescription every year. > > J. Liberman OD, PhD > I can also confirm from first-hand experience that when one gets shoes > for full time wear, one will need a larger and larger shoe each year > until adulthood....ditto shirts, pants, etc., etc. |
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| On Mar 29, 9:00*pm, otisbr...[at]embarqmail.com wrote: - quote - > And of course the expert second-opinion:
I can also confirm from first-hand experience that when one gets shoes> I have yet to hear of a research paper confirming the beneficial > effect of prescribing compensatory lenses. > I am sure most optometrists will confirm the clinical observation that > patients who receive compensatory lenses for full time wear > are usually the ones who need a stronger prescription every year. > J. Liberman OD, PhD for full time wear, one will need a larger and larger shoe each year until adulthood....ditto shirts, pants, etc., etc. |
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