Go Back   Earth Vision Correction > Main Category > Vision

 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #44  
Old 04-13-2008, 08:00 AM
Jason Sperry
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: The Logical Problem with Bates

On Apr 13, 12:44*am, Nicolaas Hawkins <grumpy.m...[at]t.large> wrote:
- quote -

> On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 23:53:29 -0700 (PDT), Jason Sperry
> <jasonsperr...[at]gmail.com> *wrote in
> <news:bdf3df1f-4001-4895-9970-b25c35ae2ec7[at]q24g2000prf.googlegroups.com> :
> > Sincerely,
> > Zetsu (j/k...Jason i meant)
> > lol who am i today!!!!!!!!!!111??///
> A congenital idiot by *any* name is still a congenital idiot.

LOL thank you for describing yourself!

You get student of the month award!


Alt 04-13-2008, 08:00 AM
LaSalute.net
ads
 
Standard Sponsored links

  #43  
Old 04-13-2008, 07:44 AM
Nicolaas Hawkins
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: The Logical Problem with Bates

On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 23:53:29 -0700 (PDT), Jason Sperry
<jasonsperry13[at]gmail.com> wrote in
<news:bdf3df1f-4001-4895-9970-b25c35ae2ec7[at]q24g2000prf.googlegroups.com> :

- quote -

> Sincerely,
> Zetsu (j/k...Jason i meant)
> lol who am i today!!!!!!!!!!111??///

A congenital idiot by *any* name is still a congenital idiot.
  #42  
Old 04-13-2008, 06:53 AM
Jason Sperry
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: The Logical Problem with Bates

- quote -

> You haven't explained how they avoidbumpingintofurniture.

Dear Mike,

Don't get them *too* familiar with the furniture around them.

Then they might just start seeing again.

Then your practice will be obsolete.

Isn't money is the best thing that exists?

You need to read Bates more, idiot.

-----

Now, why not scroll up and answer some of *my* questions.

Forgot where the scroll bar was located on your screen?

Sincerely,

Zetsu (j/k...Jason i meant)

lol who am i today!!!!!!!!!!111??///
  #41  
Old 04-09-2008, 08:04 AM
Jason Sperry
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: The Logical Problem with Bates

On Apr 9, 12:08*am, "Ms.Brainy" <mikabra...[at]gmail.com> wrote:
- quote -

> On Apr 8, 11:25*pm, Jason Sperry <jasonsperr...[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> > Sorry, lol. I got kinda stressed out when I thought about my grandma
> > and the cataract surgery. Can't the surgery be postponed or
> > something!!! I barely told her about the Bates method yet...I
> > basically told her about it over the phone once and that was pretty
> > much it. Now I feel bad...
> Don't feel bad Jason. *What's happening is typical to the promises
> that come from the Bates school. *Should I continue to laugh?

OK...I know something will work out anyway. I want believe everything
happens for a reason. It tends to relieve some of my stress.

And yes, please continue to laugh (even if you're laughing *at* me)
because I believe that laughter is great medicine and relieves
stress.
  #40  
Old 04-09-2008, 07:08 AM
Ms.Brainy
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: The Logical Problem with Bates

On Apr 8, 11:25*pm, Jason Sperry <jasonsperr...[at]gmail.com> wrote:
- quote -

> Sorry, lol. I got kinda stressed out when I thought about my grandma
> and the cataract surgery. Can't the surgery be postponed or
> something!!! I barely told her about the Bates method yet...I
> basically told her about it over the phone once and that was pretty
> much it. Now I feel bad...

Don't feel bad Jason. What's happening is typical to the promises
that come from the Bates school. Should I continue to laugh?
  #39  
Old 04-09-2008, 06:25 AM
Jason Sperry
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: The Logical Problem with Bates

Sorry, lol. I got kinda stressed out when I thought about my grandma
and the cataract surgery. Can't the surgery be postponed or
something!!! I barely told her about the Bates method yet...I
basically told her about it over the phone once and that was pretty
much it. Now I feel bad...
  #38  
Old 04-09-2008, 06:23 AM
Jason Sperry
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: The Logical Problem with Bates

Hi Ms. Brainy,

- quote -

> I really like you Jason. *You are funny and make me laugh.

Are you being truthful or sarcastic?

- quote -

> It's nice to see how creative you are in forcing facts to suit your theory..

Well thanks! But I kinda disagree that I am "forcing facts to suit my
theory."

- quote -

> BTW, how is the cure of your grandma's cataract going?

I will be truthful. I have unfortunately been WAY to busy to even
think about it much since I last mentioned it. That does not mean I am
not still going to try and cure her though.

But actually my grandpa also had cataracts, and he got surgery to
remove them. And now my grandma is planning on cataract surgery. In
fact, it's planned for April 17th.

*looks on calender*

oh gosh.............x_x... I must be the most busiest person on the
planet!

So I guess I have about one week to cure her...or else surgery? It
can't be that crazy, can it? > _<

Argh I have so much ![at]#$ing schoolwork...

aliuehlfiauehjfliahjelifjlaeiufhleaiuafho948to3489 yto349hfo498wgh49ewghv
  #37  
Old 04-08-2008, 06:55 AM
Ms.Brainy
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: The Logical Problem with Bates

On Apr 6, 11:47*pm, Jason Sperry <jasonsperr...[at]gmail.com> wrote:
- quote -

> Hi Ms. Brainy,
> It's very simple. At the time when your mother was reading the distant
> letters fluently, her memory was most likely temporarily improved. But
> when your mother called your sister "mama," it would have been found
> that her eyes were not normal if examined with a retinoscope.
> Unfortunately, interesting as your mother's story may be, it is too
> subjective to serve as evidence for an exception of Dr. Bates'
> findings (i.e., how do you know that she wasn't subconsciously aware
> that you were her daughter as she was reading the distant letters?).
> Jason-

I really like you Jason. You are funny and make me laugh. It's nice
to see how creative you are in forcing facts to suit your theory.
BTW, how is the cure of your grandma's cataract going?
  #36  
Old 04-07-2008, 04:17 PM
Neil Brooks
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: The Logical Problem with Bates

On Apr 7, 8:12 am, Jason Sperry <jasonsperr...[at]gmail.com> wrote:
- quote -

> Andrew,
> You are not the only one who is getting tired of Mike Tyner's
> incessantly ignorant and abusive posts.

I'm fairly sure that there are vision-related forums where Mike (and
I) do NOT post. Perhaps ... if you limited your involvement to THOSE
(alternative) sites, there'd be no friction....

- quote -

> No doubt he "helps" some
> people on this newsgroup (and of course in real life) with
> conventional optometry/ophthalmology, but he can be a real stubborn
> jerk when it comes to looking at visual science with an open mind.
> I've also noticed that instead of answering people's scientific
> questions, Dr. Tyner selectively ignores most of them and instead
> shoots insults at everybody who is in the slightest disagreement with
> him.
> Jason

Jason,

It's really INCREDIBLY simple, and I feel comfortable saying it
because I've seen Mike say it, himself, repeatedly on this forum, and
because I share the view:



Come up with ANY reproducible evidence that anything you're touting
works (statistical significance) better than placebo and Mike will
incorporate it into his practice.

I'm saying the exact same thing: if it WORKS, then it will WORK in
randomized, controlled, clinical trials (RCCTs).

Until then, it's a theory that has NOT been supported and whose claims
defy any credibility.



And ... credibility is in mighty short supply when YOU tell MIKE what
his mother COULD or COULD NOT "see."

Why is it so difficult for you to understand that??
  #35  
Old 04-07-2008, 03:12 PM
Jason Sperry
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: The Logical Problem with Bates

Andrew,

You are not the only one who is getting tired of Mike Tyner's
incessantly ignorant and abusive posts. No doubt he "helps" some
people on this newsgroup (and of course in real life) with
conventional optometry/ophthalmology, but he can be a real stubborn
jerk when it comes to looking at visual science with an open mind.

I've also noticed that instead of answering people's scientific
questions, Dr. Tyner selectively ignores most of them and instead
shoots insults at everybody who is in the slightest disagreement with
him.

Jason
 

Tags
bates, logical, problem
Similar Threads
Thread Forum Replies Last Post
For my Asian friend with a logical mind
otisbrown@pa.net: Dear friend, Subject: People who clear their vision with the plus. Asian> Obviously my parents will not take the blame, and tell me to...
Vision 25 06-14-2005 03:05 AM
Re: Bates
Mike Tyner: "Kory Postma" <kory_p@NOhotSPAMmail.com> wrote > Squinting is harmful because that is how I became myopic, I was > imitating a friend of mine who...
Vision 87 08-06-2003 02:25 PM
Re: Bates
Scott Seidman: Rishigg <g.gatti@agora.it> wrote in news:tBUWa.33962$sj6.753919 @tornado.fastwebnet.it: > Dear man, > to be a follower is ALWAYS bad. > But...
Main Category 1 08-04-2003 12:54 PM



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

All times are GMT. The time now is 01:22 AM.