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Old 05-21-2008, 09:54 PM
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Quadibloc writes:

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> Of course lenses could do it, just generate a real image floating in
> air a few inches from someone's eyes if that person is nearsighted.

Of course! A 1X microscope objective with a two-foot aperture. You're a
genius!
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Old 05-21-2008, 07:45 PM
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On May 18, 9:30*pm, Richard J Kinch <ki...[at]truetex.com> wrote:
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> Quadibloc writes:
> > Actually, this isn't really an issue with a holographic display, ...
> The question was whether it could be done with lenses.

The question was whether it could be done with whatever technology is
used to make 3D displays, at least as I understood it.

It could not be done, for example, with vertical strips and slots,
because that changes which eye an image goes to, not its distance for
focusing. Holography is another technique used for 3D displays.

Of course lenses could do it, just generate a real image floating in
air a few inches from someone's eyes if that person is nearsighted.
But a giant thick lens is not comparable to any technology used for 3D
displays, so I didn't count the question as being about that as an
alternative.

John Savard
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Old 05-20-2008, 07:17 AM
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Helpful person writes:

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> For the same reason that you can't use a hologram of a microscope lens
> to replace the lens.

I don't follow that reasoning. We're postulating refractive optical
elements, not holograms.
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Old 05-19-2008, 11:47 AM
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On May 18, 11:30*pm, Richard J Kinch <ki...[at]truetex.com> wrote:
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> Quadibloc writes:
> > Actually, this isn't really an issue with a holographic display, ...
> The question was whether it could be done with lenses.
> It's an old and worthwhile question. *If eyeglasses make you see properly,
> then why can't we invert the system and put "object glasses" on things to
> make us myopes (or whatever your refractive error) see them properly
> without having to have apparatus on our heads.

For the same reason that you can't use a hologram of a microscope lens
to replace the lens. You can get correct reconstruction only at one
field position and one set of conjugates.
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Old 05-19-2008, 03:30 AM
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Quadibloc writes:

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> Actually, this isn't really an issue with a holographic display, ...

The question was whether it could be done with lenses.

It's an old and worthwhile question. If eyeglasses make you see properly,
then why can't we invert the system and put "object glasses" on things to
make us myopes (or whatever your refractive error) see them properly
without having to have apparatus on our heads.
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Old 05-18-2008, 09:34 PM
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On May 18, 4:59*pm, Quadibloc <jsav...[at]ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
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> On May 9, 9:39 pm, Helpful person <rrl...[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
> > You cannot change the reconstructed wavefront to accomodate an
> > aberrated eye. *You will create geometrical distortion in the
> > reconstructed image.
> Geometrical distortion is trivial to compensate for.
> John Savard

I didn't say it wasn't.
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Old 05-18-2008, 09:02 PM
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On May 9, 2:23 am, Richard J Kinch <ki...[at]truetex.com> wrote:
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> Amir Michail writes:
> > So maybe this is possible as well?
> No. Corrective lenses must be near, or on (as in contact lenses) the eye.

Actually, this isn't really an issue with a holographic display, but
since holographic displays don't yet exist, the kind of 3D displays
which do exist don't imply that any technology would exist that would
help.

In the case of a holographic display, able to create any arbitrary
light wavefront, if the corrective lens has to be within 1 cm of the
eye... then the only constraint is that the position of the head with
respect to the laptop has to be controlled to a tolerance of 1 cm.

Instead of bolting the laptop to one's head, it could even use
infrared sensors to monitor the position of one's head!

John Savard
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Old 05-18-2008, 08:59 PM
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On May 9, 9:39 pm, Helpful person <rrl...[at]yahoo.com> wrote:

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> You cannot change the reconstructed wavefront to accomodate an
> aberrated eye. You will create geometrical distortion in the
> reconstructed image.

Geometrical distortion is trivial to compensate for.

John Savard

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Old 05-18-2008, 08:57 PM
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On May 5, 3:23 pm, "n...[at]bid.nes" <Alien8...[at]gmail.com> wrote:

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> I'm not entirely sure of that re: holography.

Oh, yes, holography would work, but I presume the OP isn't asking
about technologies that don't yet exist; he is asking if the fact that
certain types of 3D displays *already* exist would lead to something
that would work, which is not the case.

John Savard
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Old 05-18-2008, 08:55 PM
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On May 3, 7:34 am, Amir Michail <amich...[at]gmail.com> wrote:
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> Imagine using a laptop without having to wear corrective
> eyeglasses.
> I know that 3D displays exist that don't require special glasses.
> So maybe this is possible as well?

If your eyes don't focus on the laptop surface, then each point of
light on that surface is spread out over a larger area.

Since the relative phase of light from different parts of that surface
can't be controlled, destructive interference can't be created, so one
can't put anything on the laptop screen that would be seen as less
blurry than an ordinary sharp display; one can only make things worse.

John Savard
 

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